On 22/06/13 01:48, Stefano Sofia wrote:
Dear R users,
I have a seasonal time series of period 4 (my_ts).
I would like to apply to my_ts a Seasonal ARMA(2,0) process (only the seasonal 
part), with Seasonal AR coefficients respectively 0.54 and 0.5.
I tried to use the arima command from the stats package, but this code is not 
correct:

arima(my_ts, order=c(0,0,0), seasonal=list(order=c(2,0,0), sar=c(0.54, 0.5), 
period=4), n=220)

The error is:
"Error in optim(init[mask], armaCSS, method = optim.method, hessian = FALSE: initial 
value in 'vmmin' not finite".

I am not even sure of the syntax about sar=c(0.54, 0.5).
I looked for this topic in the R archive, but I have not been able to find an 
example or a useful hint.
Could you please help me? Does arima handle seasonal ARMA processes? If yes, 
how? Is there a better specific package for that?

I am not at all sure what you are trying to do, but I'm pretty sure that whatever it is, arima() is *not* the appropriate tool. The arima() function is used to *fit* models to time series. E.g. in your context to *estimate* the coefficients of your
seasonal model.  Here you appear to *know* the values of these coefficients
(they are 0.54 and 0.5) so whatever you are trying to do it would seem that
you are not trying to estimate anything.

Perhaps you want to *filter* your time series through a seasonal AR(2) filter with coefficients 0.54 and 0.5? In this case the function filter() might help you. You might also consider using arima.sim() with argument "innov" equal to your given time series (which you call --- ugh!!! --- "my_ts", using that abominable
Micro$oft originating "my this", "my that" convention).

Where on earth did you get that "sar= ..." syntax (of which you quite understandably
say you are "unsure") anyhow?  The arima() function has no such argument.

        cheers,

            Rolf Turner

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