AIC is a different story. To do hypothesis tests on terms, use anova() or dropterm() (as done in the book):
library(MASS)
example(polr)
dropterm(house.plr, test = "Chisq")
Single term deletions

Model:
Sat ~ Infl + Type + Cont
       Df    AIC     LRT   Pr(Chi)
<none>    3495.1
Infl    2 3599.4 108.239 < 2.2e-16
Type    3 3545.1  55.910 4.391e-12
Cont    1 3507.5  14.306 0.0001554

That is an object of class "anova", so can be saved and subsetted.


On 28/05/2013 22:30, David Winsemius wrote:
On May 27, 2013, at 11:05 PM, Prof Brian Ripley wrote:

On 28/05/2013 06:54, David Winsemius wrote:
On May 27, 2013, at 7:59 PM, meng wrote:

Hi all:
As to the polr {MASS} function, how to find out p values of every
parameter?


 From the example of R help:
house.plr <- polr(Sat ~ Infl + Type + Cont, weights = Freq, data =
housing)
summary(house.plr)


How to find out the p values of house.plr?
Getting  p-values from t-statistics should be fairly straight-forward:

summary(house.plr)$coefficients
And what distribution are you going to use to compute the p-values?
I should have responded with my first impulse: "If the authors didn't provide 
p-values, then perhaps they don't think they are credible."

Hint: there is no exact distribution theory for POLR fits and the asymptotic 
theory can be far enough off to be seriously misleading (just as for the 
two-class case, logistic regression: see MASS the book). That is why 
likelihood-ratio tests are recommended in MASS, not Wald tests.
And so the more correct answer would be to use stepAIC? I would have thought 
sequential removal of terms with comparisons of deviance estimates might be 
informative. This is what I get with that data:

house.AIC.1 <- stepAIC(house.plr, list(upper=~., lower=~1) )
Start:  AIC=3495.15
Sat ~ Infl + Type + Cont

        Df    AIC
<none>    3495.1
- Cont  1 3507.5
- Type  3 3545.1
- Infl  2 3599.4
So something along  those lines seems to be happening, but I am not able to 
extract those values programmatically, nor am I able to see how they even get 
displayed.

class(house.AIC.1)
[1] "polr"
str(house.AIC.1$anova)
Classes ‘Anova’ and 'data.frame':       1 obs. of  6 variables:
  $ Step      : Factor w/ 1 level "": 1
  $ Df        : num NA
  $ Deviance  : num NA
  $ Resid. Df : num 1673
  $ Resid. Dev: num 3479
  $ AIC       : num 3495


Which lead me to look at:

getAnywhere(print.polr)

But that was uninformative to my level of reading R code. The AIC trials seem 
to get printed by stepAIC() but are not saved in the returned object.

---

David Winsemius
Alameda, CA, USA


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