Edward Patzelt <patze003 <at> umn.edu> writes: > > R Help - > > Why is that in the results below, changing the order of the factor > (trialType2: levels - DD, SD, DS, SS) changes the estimates in the fixed > effects tests?
I think you're not doing what you expected. By sorting the factor, you are _not_ changing the order of the factor levels (which you might have been trying to do in order to change the parameterization); rather, you're changing the actual order of the observations of the factor, which is scrambling their association with the other variables (response=proportion.down and the grouping variable, subject). I can't think of a scenario under which sorting the order of only one of the variables in the data frame is not a mistake, unless you're trying to randomize the order to do a permutation test. What you might have meant to do is to change the order of the _levels_ of the factor, which you can do via tmp.dat4$trialType2 <- factor(tmp.dat4$trialType2, levels=c("DD","SD","DS","SS")) or perhaps tmp.dat4 <- transform(tmp.dat4, trialType2=factor(trialType2,levels=sort(levels(trialType2)))) (see also ?relevel and ?reorder) Changing the order of the factor levels will also change the specific estimates of the fixed-effect parameters, in this case by changing the parameterization (contrasts), which are by default based on differences from the first factor level (although see also ?contr.SAS), but not the overall meaning/fit of the model. By the way, this isn't specifically a mixed-effects model question -- the same issues would apply with just about any statistical model in R (see e.g. Faraway's books on linear and generalized models -- some early drafts are available in the contributed documentation section). ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.