I thought my reply went to the group last night. i had already resolved it.
in short, before his first reply it was resolved... which is why i didn't offer additional information. i was honestly taken aback by his response to me. i don't respond well to vitriol wrapped in attempts to help. i am adult, not a 5 year old. i have offered help to others here before, not often, but i have. i watch this list daily, multiple times a day. i know the rules. i had a moment of panic and i forgot to add that in my initial email. i panicked becuase: i went through all of the typical stuff one would with such an error with that student. "is the car package installed'; "have you restarted R"; "have you cleared out the workspace and reinstalled everything?" etc. this is my first time teaching this course. i am also the ONLY one here in my department that uses R. and i am proficent through multinom/ logit/ probit, etc. (though still have a lot to learn, of course). i am no dummy. but i was stuck. i had no one else to turn to, and i was worried i would not be able to help her on my own. i forgot to add her session info in a lapse. that's all. sorry i wasn't expecting the level of response i got. by the time i realized it, i had alreayd resovled it. i had come back to say that when i saw this reply, and just ended up mentioning i had done many of the things he suggested. and failed to mention it was resolved because -at that point- 1) i didn't need the help 2) since i didn't provide the info, i wasn't going to have anyone else attempt to help me so i didn't see that as a big deal. i had no intent on being rude. i simply forgot. are we not allowed to make mistakes without being attacked? no one is perfect all of the time. anyway. that is is rhetorical question. i don't wish to engage in a online 'argument' or defense of my honest mistake. so i will bow out of this thread at this time out of repect for everyone else. ~Nicole Ford Ph.D. student Graduate Assistant/ Instructor University of South Florida Government and International Affairs office: SOC 012M e: nmhi...@mail.usf.edu http://gia.usf.edu/student/nford/ On Feb 26, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Greg Snow wrote: > Nicole, > > Since you seem more interested in accusing David of being rude than > recognizing your own rudeness and taking steps to overcome that and increase > your chance of getting useful responses I will quote a few lines from the > posting guide for you (the entire posting guide is available from the link at > the bottom of this and every R-help post): > > "Like many responses posted on the list, it is written in a concise manner. > This is not intended to be unfriendly - it is more a consequence of > allocating the limited available time and space to technical issues rather > than to social niceties." > > "Remember that customs differ. Some people are very direct. Others surround > everything they say with hedges and apologies. Be tolerant. Rudeness is never > warranted, but sometimes `read the manual' is the appropriate response." > > "No HTML posting (harder to detect spam) (note that this is the default in > some mail clients - you may have to turn it off)." > > "at a minimum, copy and paste the output from sessionInfo() into your message" > > > I see attempts to help you in David's posts, I see very little in your > responses that would help him (or any of the rest of us) help you. > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Nicole Ford <nicolefor...@gmail.com> wrote: > by the time your rude reply came ( you are often rude to people so i > shouldn't have been surprised but somehow was) , i had already found my > answer, by doing it MYSELF on her computer and found had not followed some > simple instructions. > > be well. > ~Nicole Ford > Ph.D. student > Graduate Assistant/ Instructor > University of South Florida > Government and International Affairs > office: SOC 012M > e: nmhi...@mail.usf.edu > http://gia.usf.edu/student/nford/ > > > > > > > On Feb 25, 2013, at 4:18 PM, David Winsemius wrote: > > > My point is that you _still_ have not adhered to the Posting Guide request > > for sessionInfo() ... I say again. Please read the Posting Guide ... AND > > PLEASE STOP posting formatted email. > > > > -- > > David. > > > > On Feb 25, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Nicole Ford wrote: > > > >> I did look at ??pie ??graphics, as per my reply. which netted nothing of > >> value. > >> > >> thanks. > >> ~Nicole Ford > >> Ph.D. student > >> Graduate Assistant/ Instructor > >> University of South Florida > >> Government and International Affairs > >> office: SOC 012M > >> e: nmhi...@mail.usf.edu > >> http://gia.usf.edu/student/nford/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Feb 25, 2013, at 12:38 PM, David Winsemius wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> On Feb 25, 2013, at 7:37 AM, Nicole Ford wrote: > >>> > >>>> hello, all. > >>>> > >>>> one of my students is having an issue with the pie & legend function. > >>>> > >>>> this is her code. (below) > >>>> > >>>> it works just fine for me. > >>>> > >>>> her error is "plot.new has not been called yet". i know this means her > >>>> pie chart is coming up blank so the legend will not work. > >>> > >>> So at that point, why not issue the command: > >>> > >>> plot.new() # ? > >>> > >>> Graphics problems can be very system specific. Follow-up should include a > >>> proper adherence to the Posting Guide advice about the necessary problem > >>> description. You should assist R help by first educating yourself and > >>> then giving your students proper training in how to construct questions > >>> for R-help. > >>> > >>>> > >>>> according to ?graphics this package *is* supposed to handle these > >>>> functionalities. however, when i tried to install it i get the > >>>> following error: > >>>> > >>>> Warning message: > >>>> package graphics is not available (for R version 2.15.2) > >>> > >>> The graphics package is part of the base installation. As far as I know > >>> you cannot reinstall it. You would instead need to reinstall R if you > >>> thought her installation if R was corrupt. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> David. > >>> > >>>> > >>>> however, the ?graphics page shows it is indeed available for this > >>>> version of R. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Package: graphics > >>>> Version: 2.15.2 > >>>> Priority: base > >>>> Title: The R Graphics Package > >>>> Author: R Core Team and contributors worldwide > >>>> Maintainer: R Core Team <r-c...@r-project.org> > >>>> Description: R functions for base graphics > >>>> Imports: grDevices > >>>> License: Part of R 2.15.2 > >>>> Built: R 2.15.2; ; 2012-10-26 16:14:39 UTC; unix > >>>> > >>>> thoughts are greatly appreciated. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> strength <- factor(c(rep("8.0-9.9", 2), rep("7.0-7.9", 12), > >>>>> rep("6.0-6.9", 108))) > >>>>> plot(strength, xlab="Earthquake Strength", ylab="Frequency") > >>>>> histogram(strength, xlab="Earthquake Strength", ylab="Relative > >>>>> Frequency by Percentage") > >>>>> pie(table(strength)) > >>>> legend("topright", title="Earthquake Strength", cex=0.6, pch=16, > >>>> col=c("white", "blue", "red"), legend=c("6.0 to 6.9", "7.0 to 7.9", "8.0 > >>>> to 8.9"), ncol=3) > >>>> > >>> > >>> David Winsemius > >>> Alameda, CA, USA > >>> > >> > > > > David Winsemius > > Alameda, CA, USA > > > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > > ______________________________________________ > R-help@r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > > > > -- > Gregory (Greg) L. Snow Ph.D. > 538...@gmail.com [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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