Yes ... that's much better. RTFM, Bert.

-- Bert

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Raeanne Miller
<raeanne.mil...@sams.ac.uk> wrote:
> Hi Bert,
>
> Thanks for your answer - I've done a good bit of research in to panel 
> functions this afternoon, and they're starting to seem a *little* less 
> intimidating. I didn't know there was a panel.lines, so that's very helpful!
>
> Turns out that panel.loess has an argument 'horizontal', which when set to 
> 'TRUE' bases the smooth on the y axis, as opposed to the x. So by using a 
> panel function:
>
> panel.groups = function(x, y, ..., lty) {
>       panel.xyplot(x, y, ...)
>       panel.loess(x,y, horizontal=TRUE, lty=lty,...)
>        }
>
> in my call to xyplot, it seems I can get the smooth the way I want it, with 
> Depth on the y axis and abundance on the x axis.
>
> Hope that is useful for anyone else interested - and Bert, thanks again for 
> the swift reply!
>
> Raeanne
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bert Gunter [mailto:gunter.ber...@gene.com]
> Sent: 18 January 2013 15:08
> To: Raeanne Miller
> Cc: r-help@r-project.org
> Subject: Re: [R] lattice: loess smooths based on y-axis values
>
> Reanne:
>
>
> UNTESTED:
>
> I would reverse the xyplot call as xyplot(x~y,...) to get all axes set up 
> properly and then just write an explicit panel function using
> loess() and predict.loess the "correct" way, e.g. as loess(y~x) to get the 
> (x,y) curve pairs to be plotted  via panel.lines(y,x....). You will have to 
> make sure the pairs are ordered in decreasing x.
>
> This presumes familiarity with loess() and lattice panel functions, of 
> course. Deepayan's book is a comprehensive resource for the latter.
> Murrell's also contains a less comprehensive but probably adequate overview. 
> -- If you need anything at all, that is.
>
> -- Bert
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:36 AM, Raeanne Miller <raeanne.mil...@sams.ac.uk> 
> wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I'm using the lattice package to create an xy plot of abundance vs. depth 
>> for 5 stages of barnacle larvae from 5 species. Each panel of the plot 
>> represents a different stage, while different loess smoothers within each 
>> panel should represent different species.
>>
>> However, I would like depth to be on the y-axis and abundance to be on the 
>> x-axis, because this is more intuitive as an oceanographer. The smoothing 
>> curves would then represent the abundance profiles with depth of the larvae. 
>> I have tried just switching depth and abundance in the plot formula/coding, 
>> but this means that the loess smoother is based on averaging depth values 
>> for each abundance, which means that the curves give multiple possible 
>> abundances at each depth level. Rather, I would like the loess smooth to 
>> still be based on 'averaging' abundance at each depth.
>>
>> Essentially, I would like a mirror image of the plot from this code:
>>
>> ord<-order(Zoo_nocyp$Depth_m, decreasing=TRUE)
>> xyplot(log10Ab[ord]~factor(-1*Depth_m[ord])|StageF[ord],
>>          data=Zoo_nocyp[Zoo_nocyp$log10Ab!="0" ,],
>>          type=c("p","smooth"),
>>          par.settings=list(strip.background=list(col="white"), 
>> fontzize=list(text=16,points=10), lty = 0),
>>          space=0, border=NA,
>>          col=c("blue","red","green","purple","orange"),
>>          stack=TRUE, groups=Zoo_nocyp$SpeciesF,
>>          key=
>>            list(title="Species", 
>> cex.title=1,text=list(c("BB","BC","CH","SB","VS")),space="right",
>>                 rectangles=list(size=2, 
>> border="white",col=c("blue","red","green","purple","orange"))),
>>          xlab="depth (m)", ylab="log10 abundance",
>>          layout=c(2,3))
>>
>> which is different to what you get when you switch log10Ab and Depth_m.
>>
>> Is there any way to specify the smoothers to be based on sequential y-axis 
>> values, rather than x? Or to get the mirror image of a plot?
>>
>> I can provide a dataset offline, for those interested.
>>
>> Thanks very much,
>>
>> Raeanne
>>
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>
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