Thank you Mr Snow. I will look into it. 

Best regards
Joyce Lin 

On 11 Jan, 2013, at 3:55 AM, Greg Snow <538...@gmail.com> wrote:

> To further the understanding of the loess fit and how the tricube weight work 
> you may want to look at the loess.demo function in the TeachingDemos package. 
>  It will create a scatterplot of the data and show the loess fit, then when 
> you click on the plot it will show the weights used for predicting at that 
> point and the fitted line/curve for that point. Click at another place in the 
> graph and it will show the weights and local fit corresponding to that point.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Joyce Lin <joyceli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you Mr Gunter!  I will look into it.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Bert Gunter <gunter.ber...@gene.com> wrote:
> 
> > As this does not seem to have been answered...
> >
> > I believe you may misunderstand how loess works. The tricube weights
> > are part of the smoothing algorithm and change with each local fit,
> > not fixed weights for observations, which is what the "weights"
> > argument provides (and initially multiplies the tricube weight, IIRC).
> >
> > I suggest you consult
> >
> > ?predict.loess
> >
> > to get standard deviations of fitted values at existing or new points.
> >
> > -- Bert
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Joyce Lin <joyceli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I am trying to get the tricube weights from the loess outputs as I need
> > to
> > > calculate an error function which requires the weight.
> > >
> > > So I have used the following example from the R:
> > >
> > > cars.lo <- loess(dist ~ speed, cars, span=0.5, degree=1,
> > family="symmetric")
> > >
> > > Then i try to get the weights:
> > >
> > > cars.lo$weights
> > >  [1] 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
> > 1 1
> > > 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
> > >
> > > The results are all 1 so i dont think that the tricube weighting are set.
> > > May I know what other parameters do i need to tweak to set the weights to
> > > tricube weights? Thank you.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best regards
> > > Joyce Lin
> > >
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> 
> 
> 
> --
> Best regards
> Joyce Lin
> 
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