Hello Andy,

thanks for your answer and sorry that I did not check the rfNews.
You are right, presently I am only looking at variable importance and therefore I am very happy to hear that I won`t have problems using ordered factors. Since I just started to fiddle around with randomForest it might be that I will have some more questions later - let`see.

But presently I am very grateful that you provide this package.

Greets

Birgit

Am 29.04.2008 um 16:29 schrieb Liaw, Andy:
If you are using the latest version (4.5-25), you will see in rfNews () that that's the problem I need to fix. The package was able to handle ordered factors, but some more stringent checks for factor levels consistency introduced in 4.5-23 broke the support for ordered factors in prediction.

From the code you've shown, it looks like you are just growing the forest to evaluate variable importance or other things, instead of predicting other data (since you set keep.forest=FALSE). If that's the case, you should be fine, as the problem only happens when you try to call predict() with models that contain ordered factors as predictors.

(Ordered factors are basically treated as numerics in RF: trees only make use of ranks for numeric variables, so there's basically no difference between ordered factors and numeric variables as predictors.)

Andy

From: Birgit Lemcke

Hello R-user!

I am running R 2.7.0 on a Power Book (Tiger). (I am still R and
statistics beginner)

I try to find the most important variables to divide my dataset as
given in a categorical variable.

code:

Test.rf4<-randomForest(Sex~.,na.action=na.roughfix, data=Subset4,
importance=TRUE, proximity=TRUE, ntree=10000, do.trace=1000,
keep.forest=FALSE)

My dataset contains also ordered factors classified as such.
Is randomForest able to deal with it, does it change anything or is
there no difference in using factors or ordered factors?

Many thanks in advance

B.

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