Dear Gian Mauro, On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:44:44 +0200 "Manzoni, GianMauro" <gm.manz...@auxologico.it> wrote: > Dear Prof. John Fox, > thank you very much for your suggestions. > However, I still do not know how to use the contrasts after generating them. > Once I generate the matrix with the polynomial contrasts, what are the > following steps toward the statistical test?
Here's a contrived example, which uses the Anova() and linearHypothesis() functions in the car package: ----- snip ------ > Y <- matrix(rnorm(300), 100, 3) > colnames(Y) <- c("y1", "y2", "y3") > f <- ordered(sample(letters[1:4], 100, replace=TRUE)) > (mod <- lm(Y ~ f)) Call: lm(formula = Y ~ f) Coefficients: y1 y2 y3 (Intercept) 0.06514 -0.01683 -0.13787 f.L -0.37837 0.18309 0.29736 f.Q -0.02102 -0.39894 0.08455 f.C 0.05898 0.09358 -0.17634 > Anova(mod) Type II MANOVA Tests: Pillai test statistic Df test stat approx F num Df den Df Pr(>F) f 3 0.11395 1.2634 9 288 0.2566 > linearHypothesis(mod, "f.L") Sum of squares and products for the hypothesis: y1 y2 y3 y1 3.607260 -1.745560 -2.834953 y2 -1.745560 0.844680 1.371839 y3 -2.834953 1.371839 2.227995 Sum of squares and products for error: y1 y2 y3 y1 86.343376 -8.054928 -3.711756 y2 -8.054928 95.473020 2.429151 y3 -3.711756 2.429151 89.593163 Multivariate Tests: Df test stat approx F num Df den Df Pr(>F) Pillai 1 0.0648520 2.172951 3 94 0.096362 . Wilks 1 0.9351480 2.172951 3 94 0.096362 . Hotelling-Lawley 1 0.0693495 2.172951 3 94 0.096362 . Roy 1 0.0693495 2.172951 3 94 0.096362 . --- Signif. codes: 0 *** 0.001 ** 0.01 * 0.05 . 0.1 1 ----- snip ------ You could do similar tests for the quadratic and cubic contrasts. I hope this helps, John ------------------------------------------------ John Fox Sen. William McMaster Prof. of Social Statistics Department of Sociology McMaster University Hamilton, Ontario, Canada http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox/ > > A whole example would be very useful. > > Thank you very much in advance! > > Best regards, > Gian Mauro Manzoni > > > > 2012/7/25 John Fox <j...@mcmaster.ca> > > > Dear Gian, > > > > How contrasts are created by default is controlled by the contrasts option: > > > > > getOption("contrasts") > > unordered ordered > > "contr.treatment" "contr.poly" > > > > So, unless you've changed this option, contr.poly() will be used to > > generate orthogonal polynomial contrasts for an ordered factor, and you > > therefore need do nothing special to get this result. For example: > > > > > (f <- ordered(sample(letters[1:3], 10, replace=TRUE))) > > [1] c c a a c c b c a c > > Levels: a < b < c > > > > > round(contrasts(f), 4) > > .L .Q > > [1,] -0.7071 0.4082 > > [2,] 0.0000 -0.8165 > > [3,] 0.7071 0.4082 > > > > For more information, see section 11 on statistical models in the manual > > "An Introduction to R," which is part of the standard R distribution, and > > in particular sections 11.1 and 11.1.1. > > > > I hope that this clarifies the issue. > > > > Best, > > John > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > John Fox > > Sen. William McMaster Prof. of Social Statistics > > Department of Sociology > > McMaster University > > Hamilton, Ontario, Canada > > http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox/ > > > > On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:58:30 +0200 > > "Manzoni, GianMauro" <gm.manz...@auxologico.it> wrote: > > > Dear Greg Snow, > > > thank you very much for your suggestions. However, I need an example in > > > order to understand fully. > > > I was told that, given the ordinal factor, I do not need to specify the > > > contr.poly function because R does it automatically. > > > However, I don not know if I have to add an argument into the > > manova/anova > > > function or something else. > > > Please write me an illustrative example. > > > Many thanks. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Gian Mauro Manzoni > > > > > > 2012/7/25 Greg Snow <538...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > You should not need to write them yourself. Look at the contr.poly > > > > function along with the C function (Note uppercase C) or the contrasts > > > > function. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 23, 2012, Manzoni, GianMauro wrote: > > > > > > > >> Dear all, > > > >> I am quite new to R and I am having trouble writing the polynomial > > > >> contrasts for an ordinal factor in MANOVA. > > > >> # I have a model such as this > > > >> fit<-manova(cbind(Y1,Y2,Y3)~Groups,data=Events) # where groups is an > > > >> ordinal factor with 4 levels > > > >> # how to set polynomial contrasts for the "Groups" factor ? > > > >> > > > >> Thank you very much in advance for any help! > > > >> > > > >> Best regards, > > > >> Mauro > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> Dr. Gian Mauro Manzoni > > > >> PhD, PsyD > > > >> Psychology Research Laboratory > > > >> San Giuseppe Hospital > > > >> Istituto Auxologico Italiano > > > >> Verbania - Italy > > > >> e-mail: gm.manz...@auxologico.it > > > >> cell. phone +39 338 4451207 > > > >> Tel. +39 0323 514278 > > > >> > > > >> [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > > >> > > > >> ______________________________________________ > > > >> R-help@r-project.org mailing list > > > >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > > > >> PLEASE do read the posting guide > > > >> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > > > >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Gregory (Greg) L. Snow Ph.D. > > > > 538...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Dr. Gian Mauro Manzoni > > > PhD, PsyD > > > Psychology Research Laboratory > > > San Giuseppe Hospital > > > Istituto Auxologico Italiano > > > Verbania - Italy > > > e-mail: gm.manz...@auxologico.it > > > cell. phone +39 338 4451207 > > > Tel. +39 0323 514278 > > > > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > R-help@r-project.org mailing list > > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > > > PLEASE do read the posting guide > > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > > > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > > > > > > > > -- > Dr. Gian Mauro Manzoni > PhD, PsyD > Psychology Research Laboratory > San Giuseppe Hospital > Istituto Auxologico Italiano > Verbania - Italy > e-mail: gm.manz...@auxologico.it > cell. phone +39 338 4451207 > Tel. +39 0323 514278 ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.