Dan,

It is hard to say without being able to reproduce your example.  If you send me 
the data
I could try to advise something.

Roger

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On Feb 13, 2012, at 7:50 AM, Dan Morovitz wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> 
> I'm attempting to calculate the 0.25 and 0.97 quantiles for tree height (0-50 
> meters) against tree age (0-300 years) and I am running into some difficulty 
> with the plotted grafic. I've run the examples in the quantreg help and can 
> get those to work properly and by plugging in my data I can also get the 
> lines plotted on my dataset. Unfortunately I'm running into a problem with 
> the median and other regression lines with tree age younger than 50 years, 
> basically the median is in this range overestimated and even comes out of the 
> rage of oberservations. here is the code I'm using.
> 
> 
> # then fit the median using nlrq
> 
> spruce.nlrq <- nlrq(height ~ SSlogis(age, Asym, mid, scal),data=spruce, 
> tau=0.5, trace=TRUE)
> lines(1:200, predict(spruce.nlrq, newdata=list(age=1:200)), col="2")
> 
> 
> I believe  this has something to do with the SSlogis, as this gives the 
> parameters for an S curve.  My data set does not have the typical S curve 
> shape, instead you could image it as starting at the inflection point of an S 
> curve. This is what I expect the .025 quantile to be similar to:
> 
> x <- seq(1,100,1)
> plot(log(x))
> 
> 
> the 0,975 should also have a logarithmic shape but no such a steep incline.  
> Ive tried using different self starting models as found under:
> 
> apropos("^ss")
> 
>       
> however I have not gotten them to work, or at least to fix the problem. 
> Curves similar to mine look like these site index curves:
> http://www.extension.umn.edu/distribution/naturalresources/components/3473-13.html
> 
> In the example from the nlrq help the lines of the median and the various 
> quantiles all start from the same location, tha is basically (x=0, y=0) in 
> the coodinate plane.  With my problem, the lines start to be drawn from 
> various different positions ( the lines always start at age(x)=0, but the 
> height(y) can range between 0 and 15).
> Additionally, the data set is quite large. with about 50,000 oberservations 
> on age and height.
> Does anyone have a suggestion on how to fix this problem?
> Thanks in advance
> Dan
> 
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