gotcha john. thanks.

On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 9:28 PM, John C Frain <fra...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mark
>
> This should be reasonably straightforward. In the simplest case you wih to
> draw a random complex number in the unit circle. This is best done in polar
> coordinates.
>
> If r is a random mumber on (0,1) and theta a random number on (0, 2 Pi)
> then if x=r cos(theta) and y= r sin(theta), x + i y is inside the unit
> circle.  As such roots come in conjugate pairs a second is x-iy. If you
> then need an odd number of roots the final can simply be a random number on
> (0,1). You do not need to use a uniform distribution but can use any
> distribution on the required intervals or restrain more or the eigenvalues
> to be real.
>
> John
>
> On Sunday, 15 January 2012, Mark Leeds <marklee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > hi  john. I think I follow you. but , in your algorithm, it is
> straightforward to
> > generate a set of eigenvalues with modulus less than 1 ?  thanks.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:31 PM, John C Frain <fra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Mark, statquant2
> >
> > As I understand the question it is not to test if a VAR is stable but
> how to construct a VAR that is stable and automatically satisfies the
> condition Mark has taken from Lutkohl. The algorithm that I have set out
> will automatically satisfy that condition.The matrix that should be
> "estimated by the algorithm is A on the last line of page 15 of Lutkepohl.
>  Incidentally the corresponding matrix for the example on page 15 is
> singular. The algorithm that I have set out will only lead to systems with
> a non-singular matrix.
> >
> > I still don't see how a matrix generated in this way corresponds to a
> real economic system.  Of course you may have some other constraints in
> mind that would make the generated system correspond to something more real.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Saturday, 14 January 2012, Mark Leeds <marklee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi statquant2 and john: In the first chapter of Lutkepohl, it is shown
> that stability f
> >> a VAR(p) is the same as
> >>
> >> det(I_k - A1z - .... Ap Z^p )  does not equal zero for z < 1.
> >>
> >> where I_k - A1z - ... Ap z^p is referred to as the reverse
> characteristic polynomial.
> >>
> >> So, statquant2,  given your A's,  one way to do it but be would be to
> check the roots of the
> >> polynomial implied by taking the determinant of the your polynomial.
> >>
> >> There's an example on pg 17 of lutkepohl if you have it. If you don't,
> I can fax it to you
> >> over the weekend if you want it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 8:34 PM, John C Frain <fra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think that you must approach this in a different way.
> >>>
> >>> 1 Draw a set of random eigenvalues with modulus < 1
> >>> 2 Draw a set of random eigenvalues vectors.
> >>> 3 From these you can, with some matrix manipulations, derive the
> >>> corresponding Var coefficients.
> >>>
> >>> If your original coefficients were drawn at random I suspect that the
> VAR
> >>> would not be stable. I am curious about what you are trying to do.
> >>>
> >>> John
> >>>
> >>> On Friday, 13 January 2012, statquant2 <statqu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > Hello Paul
> >>> > Thanks for the answer but my point is not how to simulate a VAR(p)
> process
> >>> > and check that it is stable.
> >>> > My question is more how can I generate a VAR(p) such that I already
> know
> >>> > that it is stable.
> >>> >
> >>> > We know a condition that assure that it is stable (see first
> message) but
> >>> > this is not a condition on coefficients etc...
> >>> > What I want is
> >>> > generate say a 1000 random VAR(3) processes over say 500 time
> periods that
> >>> > will be STABLE (meaning If I run stability() all will pass the test)
> >>> >
> >>> > When I try to do that it seems that none of the VAR I am generating
> pass
> >>> > this test, so I assume that the class of stable VAR(p) is very small
> >>> > compared to the whole VAR(p) process.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --
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