On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:51 PM, Uwe Ligges wrote:
1. The formula you used is not for a logistic but an ordinal
regression (since you are using the default gaussian family rather
than family="binomial" or whatever.
this this then produce one version of the "Armitage linear test of
trend"?
2. R (nor any other software) can deal with perfect separation (nor
quasi-separation) of classes, since the problem is not well defined
in such a case as you found out already. R will give a warning in
that case, that the Fisher Scoring does not converge.
LDA will give perfect results in such a case (well, unless the
within class covariance matrix is singular).
Best,
Uwe Ligges
On 12.12.2011 11:46, wim nursal wrote:
Dear statistician experts,
Sorry if this is a trivial question, or the old same question (i
don't know
what is the efficient key word for this issue).
In order to understand the calculation of parameter of logistic
regression,
I did an exercise through spreadsheet following the procedural
example
from a literature, or the available spreadsheet (with calculation
formula).
I ended up with infinity (divided by zero) when the odd ratio is
exactly 1
(FD=12) or invalid number when odd ratio is zero (MFD = 0) after log.
I am wondering how R through GLM function (particularly logit or
logistic
regression) treats the odds ratios or log odd ratios that is
exatcly one or
zeros.
The sample data is like this:
#HH Fsize FD
1 1.29472 0
2 1.6184 0
3 2.4276 1
4 2.4276 2
5 20.23 2
6 1.6184 3
7 1.820 3
8 0.4046 3
9 6.069 4
10 2.6299 4
11 0.72828 5
12 2.4276 5
13 6.069 7
14 4.8552 7
15 2.32645 7
16 1.6184 8
17 1.0115 8
18 1.0115 8
19 5.2598 9
20 2.023 10
21 0.6069 10
22 1.2138 11
23 0.8092 11
24 1.4161 11
25 0.6069 11
26 3.440 11
27 1.2138 12
28 1.2138 12
29 0.4046 12
30 1.2138 12
Fsize is the farm size (acre or hectare). Food deficit (FD) is the
number
of months (last year from the survey took place) that an household
had
bought food-grains (minimum = 0 month, maximum = 12 months or whole
year
deficit).
Even though I "jitter"-ed the minimum or maximum FD value only (eg.
FD=0+1e-6 or FD=12-1e-6), nothing changed to the result.
The formula I used is like this:
--------------------------------------------------------------
glm(FD ~ Fsize, data = subFS)
--
Coefficients:
(Intercept) Fsize
7.7913 -0.3092
Degrees of Freedom: 29 Total (i.e. Null); 28 Residual
Null Deviance: 463
Residual Deviance: 425.5 AIC: 170.7
--------------------------------------------------------------
I appreciate for any clarification.
Best wishes,
Wim
David Winsemius, MD
Heritage Laboratories
West Hartford, CT
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