Here is one possible way of proceeding:

cohen.f <- 0.25
groups <- 4
between.var <- 19
within.var <-  between.var/cohen.f^2
n <- 500

N <- groups*n
sim.means <- rnorm(n = groups, mean = 0, sd = sqrt(between.var))
sim.data <- data.frame(group = gl(groups, 1, length = N),
                   response = rnorm(N, sim.means, sqrt(within.var)))
sim.anova <- aov(response ~ group, sim.data)


## sim.data <- lapply(sim.means, function(mean) rnorm(n = n, mean =
mean, sd =
## sqrt(within.var)))
## sim.anova <- ?

to see the anova table, use summary(sim.anova), for example. 


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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Will Holcomb
Sent: Wednesday, 5 March 2008 3:03 PM
To: r-help
Subject: [R] simulating the anova

I have been trying to figure out how to run a simple simulation of the
ANOVA
and I'm coming up just a bit short. The code I've got is:

cohen.f = .25
groups = 4
between.var = 19
within.var =  between.var / cohen.f ^ 2
n = 500
sim.means = rnorm(n = groups, mean = 0, sd = sqrt(between.var))
sim.data = lapply(sim.means, function(mean) rnorm(n = n, mean = mean, sd
=
sqrt(within.var)))
sim.anova = ?

I'm pretty sure I've got data with the between group and within group
variances that I want. I don't really know how to run an ANOVA on it
though.
All the examples I've been able to find (with aov and anova) require an
explicit model. The ANOVA just tests the equivalence of means for a set
of
groups, right? Can I not just tell it to give me the likelihood the
means
are equal for all the columns without writing an explicit model.

Any help would be appreciated,
Will

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