Here is one possible way of proceeding: cohen.f <- 0.25 groups <- 4 between.var <- 19 within.var <- between.var/cohen.f^2 n <- 500
N <- groups*n sim.means <- rnorm(n = groups, mean = 0, sd = sqrt(between.var)) sim.data <- data.frame(group = gl(groups, 1, length = N), response = rnorm(N, sim.means, sqrt(within.var))) sim.anova <- aov(response ~ group, sim.data) ## sim.data <- lapply(sim.means, function(mean) rnorm(n = n, mean = mean, sd = ## sqrt(within.var))) ## sim.anova <- ? to see the anova table, use summary(sim.anova), for example. Bill Venables CSIRO Laboratories PO Box 120, Cleveland, 4163 AUSTRALIA Office Phone (email preferred): +61 7 3826 7251 Fax (if absolutely necessary): +61 7 3826 7304 Mobile: +61 4 8819 4402 Home Phone: +61 7 3286 7700 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cmis.csiro.au/bill.venables/ -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Will Holcomb Sent: Wednesday, 5 March 2008 3:03 PM To: r-help Subject: [R] simulating the anova I have been trying to figure out how to run a simple simulation of the ANOVA and I'm coming up just a bit short. The code I've got is: cohen.f = .25 groups = 4 between.var = 19 within.var = between.var / cohen.f ^ 2 n = 500 sim.means = rnorm(n = groups, mean = 0, sd = sqrt(between.var)) sim.data = lapply(sim.means, function(mean) rnorm(n = n, mean = mean, sd = sqrt(within.var))) sim.anova = ? I'm pretty sure I've got data with the between group and within group variances that I want. I don't really know how to run an ANOVA on it though. All the examples I've been able to find (with aov and anova) require an explicit model. The ANOVA just tests the equivalence of means for a set of groups, right? Can I not just tell it to give me the likelihood the means are equal for all the columns without writing an explicit model. Any help would be appreciated, Will [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.