Hi bbolker,
bbolker wrote: > > Doesn't "treatment" appear in fixed effects somewhere? Perhaps you mean > (Treatment+Period+Dose):Eye? Apologies for the confusion. What you referred to as "Treatment", I called "Dose" in my post. So in your terms, to avoid confusion, the fixed effects are (Subject + Period + Treatment):Eye. bbolker wrote: > > JaFF <el.romaro <at> gmail.com> writes: > Do you really want interactions only (:) rather than crossing (*) > for the fixed effects? You will get a model with the same number of > parameters either way, but parcelled out among effects differently. > I know it may not seem as the most natural of choices, but we are fairly certain of the random effects - they contain interactions only. Could you please explain how does "subject:period + subject:period:eye" convert to "eye|subject:period"? What would "A:B:C + A:B:D:E + C" be in the function specification, for example? Also, the line fit = lmer(ms ~ (subject + period + dose):eye + (eye|subject:period), data = sub) crashes my R with a runtime error. "ms" is one of the response variables I'm testing it on. I wanted to try it on earlier versions of R, but the package "lme4a" fails to install on 2.10.1, even though its pre-requisites ("minqa" and "MatrixModels") install fine. So I guess we'll have to find a way to make it work on 2.12.1 - the version I'm using. GenStat managed to analyse the same data just fine, so it's not a problem with the data. Thank you for your time. -- View this message in context: http://r.789695.n4.nabble.com/Unbalanced-Mixed-Linear-Models-With-Nested-Stratum-tp3263969p3275695.html Sent from the R help mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.