On Jan 29, 2011, at 5:21 PM, peterfran...@me.com wrote:

>
> Sorry for not being more explicit in my emails, the code I am using  
> was not generated by me therefore I was not in the position to share  
> it.
>
> Sorry if the information i have provided is insufficient or if I  
> have wasted peoples time.
>
> Basically I have the information listed below I.e n and the  
> quantiles of the random distribution and was wondering if a mean  
> could be calculated from this or if I needed to modify the code to  
> output the mean?
>
>
> the next columns are quantiles of the randomised PD distribution for  
> significance testing
> #            the probabilities are given as column names and are  
> designed to allow 1- and 2-tailed
> #            testing at the 0.05,0.01 and 0.001 levels, plus a  
> spread at 0.1 intervals across the range.

With the distribution characterized at that degree of specificity it  
should be possible to come up with a fairly reasonable  estimate for  
the mean. If it is reasonably symmetric, the midpoint of the the 20th  
and 80th percentiles is a pretty good estimate (You also have the  
median within your output.)

-- 
David
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 29 Jan 2011, at 21:48, David Winsemius <dwinsem...@comcast.net>  
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 9:39 AM, Peter Francis wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> The data is generated from 1000 random samples of a phylogenetic  
>>> tree to calculate phylogenetic diversity. I sampled the tree 1000  
>>> times at with various species communities (600) to get a random PD  
>>> per community. I then want to test my observed PD with that of a  
>>> random sample to test for significance.
>>
>> Color me puzzled. I thought you already had a test (the p value)  
>> and you wanted an estimate for a mean given that you had a 95% CI.
>>
>>> However the script i used, output
>>>
>>> q0.005    q0.01 etc upto q0.995
>>
>> Those look like names or labels for quantiles. This would move  
>> along a lot faster if you gave a more complete listing of the  
>> output and the code used to generate it.
>>
>> -- 
>> David.
>>>
>>> But i wanted to know the mean PD value per community based on the  
>>> output, and that is where i am struggling
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Peter
>>> On 29 Jan 2011, at 02:16, Joshua Wiley wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Peter,
>>>
>>> Do you know the formula used to calculate the confidence  
>>> interval?  I
>>> suspect it is possible with minimal algebraic manipulation of the CI
>>> formula to find what the mean is.  Assuming a normal distribution  
>>> (as
>>> David), then it is certainly possible to find.  This wikipedia page
>>> might help:
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_interval
>>>
>>> And no, this is not really the correct place to ask.  My basic  
>>> rule of
>>> thumb is, "Does my question have anything to do with R?  If my  
>>> answer
>>> is, "No." then I usually look for somewhere else to post.  Of  
>>> course,
>>> for a comprehensive list, see the posting guide.
>>>
>>> If you are wondering if there is a function to do it for you, I am  
>>> not
>>> sure, but it would be trivial to programme and if you show us the
>>> formula for it (the mean from the CI), we can certainly give you
>>> pointers for how to write your own :)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Peter Francis  
>>> <peterfran...@me.com> wrote:
>>>> Dear List,
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure if A) this is possible or B) the correct place to  
>>>> ask.
>>>>
>>>> I am looking to find the mean - i have n, and the two-tailed  
>>>> confidence intervals 0.95 & 0.25 with a  p-value of 0.05.
>>>>
>>>> Can i find the mean from this data ?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>
>> David Winsemius, MD
>> West Hartford, CT
>>

David Winsemius, MD
West Hartford, CT


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