Hi, assume that I have a repeated measure dataset with 3 time points: baseline, day 5 and day 10. There are 4 treatment groups (vehicle, treatment 1, treatment 2 and treatment 3). 20 subjects per treatment group. A simple straight-forward way to analyze the data is to use mixed model:
model 1: obj <- lmer(y ~ treatment * time +(time|subject)) where time is numeric with value 0,5 and 10. The problem with this approach is that this model does not account for baseline imbalance between treatment groups. But if I want to include baseline value of the response variable in the model, then I think I have to exclude the baseline data from the rows of the dataset (so that baseline will become one variable, i.e. one column of the dataset, correct me if I am wrong). With this dataset tranformation, I only end up with 2 time points left in the dataset (day 5 and day 10). Then a linear term on the numeric time variable is not possible in lmer(). In this situation, what I can think of is to treatment time variable as a factor (say named as "time.f"), and run the following model: model 2: obj<- lmer(y ~ treatment * time.f +(1|subject)) where time.f is a factor with value 5 and 10. Couple of questions: 1. Should we really concern about the baseline imbalance by including baseline as a variable in the model? What's the advantage of doing so versus not doing so? 2. If the objective of the study is to evaluate at the end of the study (day 10), which treatment group produces significantly difference from the vehicle group, is model 2 a reasonable model to do that? 3. In general, with a repeated measures of 2 to 3 time points, is mixed models really necessary? In mixed-model mailing list, I realized that there is concerns about running mixed models on just a few time points. But I feel uncomfortable to run simple ANOVA (or ANCOVA) while completely ignore the fact the data arecorrelated among time points. 4. What are the better alternatives analyzing such datasets? Thanks John [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.