Just to add to the silly solutions, here's how I would have done it... mu <- 40 sdev <- 10 days <- 100:120 # range to explore p <- 0.8 days[ match(TRUE, qnorm(0.2, mu*days, sqrt(sdev * sdev * days)) >= 4000) ]
Michael On 9 January 2011 08:48, Bert Gunter <gunter.ber...@gene.com> wrote: > If I understand what you have said below, it looks like you do NOT > have the problem solved manually. You CAN use qnorm , and when you do > so, your equation yields a simple quadratic which, of course, has an > exact solution that you can calculate in R. > > Of course, one can use uniroot or whatever to solve the quadratic; or > simulation or interpolation using pnorm. But other than the R > practice, these are unnecessary and, in this case, a bit silly. > > Cheers, > Bert > > On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Rainer Schuermann > <rainer.schuerm...@gmx.net> wrote: >>> Sounds like homework, which is not an encouraged use of the Rhelp >>> list. You can either do it in theory... >> >> It is _from_ a homework but I have the solution already (explicitly got that >> done first!) - this was the pasted Latex code (apologies for that, but in >> plain text it looks unreadable[1], and I thought everybody here has his / >> her favorite Latrex editor open all the time anyway...). I'm just looking, >> for my own advancement and programming training, for a way of doing that in >> R - which, from your and Dennis' reply, doesn't seem to exist. >> >> I would _not_ misuse the list for getting homework done easily, I will not >> ask "learning statistics" questions here, and I will always try to find the >> solution myself before posting something here, I promise! >> >> Thanks anyway for the simulation advice, >> Rainer >> >> >> (4000 - (40*n)) -329 >> [1] --------------- = ---- >> 1 200 >> (10*(n^-)) >> 2 >> >> >> >> >> On Saturday 08 January 2011 14:56:20 you wrote: >>> >>> On Jan 8, 2011, at 6:56 AM, Rainer Schuermann wrote: >>> >>> > This is probably embarrassingly basic, but I have spent quite a few >>> > hours in Google and RSeek without getting a clue - probably I'm >>> > asking the wrong questions... >>> > >>> > There is this guy who has decided to walk through Australia, a total >>> > distance of 4000 km. His daily portion (mean) is 40km with an sd of >>> > 10 km. I want to calculate the number of days it takes to arrive >>> > with 80, 90, 95, 99% probability. >>> > I know how to do this manually, eg. for 95% >>> > $\Phi \left( \frac{4000-40n}{10 \sqrt{n}} \right) \leq 0.05$ >>> > find the z score... >>> > >>> > but how would I do this in R? Not qnorm(), but what is it? >>> >>> Sounds like homework, which is not an encouraged use of the Rhelp >>> list. You can either do it in theory or you can simulate it. Here's a >>> small step toward a simulation approach. >>> >>> > cumsum(rnorm(100, mean=40, sd=10)) >>> [1] 41.90617 71.09148 120.55569 159.56063 229.73167 >>> 255.35290 300.74655 >>> snipped >>> [92] 3627.25753 3683.24696 3714.11421 3729.41203 3764.54192 >>> 3809.15159 3881.71016 >>> [99] 3917.16512 3932.00861 >>> > cumsum(rnorm(100, mean=40, sd=10)) >>> [1] 38.59288 53.82815 111.30052 156.58190 188.15454 >>> 207.90584 240.64078 >>> snipped >>> [92] 3776.25476 3821.90626 3876.64512 3921.16797 3958.83472 >>> 3992.33155 4045.96649 >>> [99] 4091.66277 4134.45867 >>> >>> The first realization did not make it in the expected 100 days so >>> further efforts should extend the simulation runs to maybe 120 days. >>> The second realization had him making it on the 98th day. There is an >>> R replicate() function available once you get a function running that >>> will return a specific value for an instance. This one might work: >>> > min(which(cumsum(rnorm(120, mean=40, sd=10)) >= 4000) ) >>> [1] 97 >>> >>> If you wanted a forum that does not explicitly discourage homework and >>> would be a better place to ask theory and probability questions, there >>> is CrossValidated: >>> http://stats.stackexchange.com/faq >>> >>> > >>> > Thanks in advance, >>> > and apologies for the level of question... >>> > Rainer >>> > >>> > ______________________________________________ >>> > R-help@r-project.org mailing list >>> > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >>> > PLEASE do read the posting guide >>> > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >>> > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >>> >>> David Winsemius, MD >>> West Hartford, CT >>> >>> >> >> ______________________________________________ >> R-help@r-project.org mailing list >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >> PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >> > > > > -- > Bert Gunter > Genentech Nonclinical Biostatistics > > ______________________________________________ > R-help@r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.