Hi - I am fitting a probit model using glm(), and the deviance and residual degrees of freedom are different depending on whether I use a binary response vector of length 80 or a two-column matrix response (10 rows) with the number of success and failures in each column. I would think that these would be just two different ways of specifying the same model, but this does not appear to be the case.
Binary response vector gives: Residual deviance: 43.209 on 77 degrees of freedom Two-column matrix response gives: Residual deviance: 4.9204 on 7 degrees of freedom I'd like to understand why the two-column response format gives a residual degrees of freedom of 7, and why the weights for one is nearly, but not exactly, a multiple of the other. I need the deviance, df, and weights for another formula, which is why I'm focused on these. My code is below. Thank you in advance for any assistance! Shelly **** # 10 record set-up group <- gl(2, 5, 10, labels=c("U","M")) dose <- rep(c(7, 8, 9, 10, 11), 2) ldose <- log10(dose) n <- c(8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8) r <- c(0,1,3,8,8,0,0,0,4,5) p <- r/n d <- data.frame(group, dose, ldose, n, r, p) SF <- cbind(success=d$r, failure=d$n - d$r) #80 record set-up dose2<-c(7,8,9,10,11) doserep<-sort(rep(dose2,8)) x<-c(doserep,doserep) log10x<-log10(x) y_U<-c(rep(0,8), 1, rep(0, 7), 1, 1, 1, rep(0,5), rep(1, 16)) y_M<-c(rep(0,24), rep(1,4), rep(0,4), rep(1,5), rep(0,3)) y<-c(y_U, y_M) trt<-c(rep(1, 40), rep(0, 40)) # print x & y's for both SF y ldose log10x # analysis with 10 records and 80 records f1 <- glm(SF ~ group + ldose, family=binomial(link="probit")) f3 <- glm(SF ~ ldose, family=binomial(link="probit")) f180 <- glm(y ~ trt + log10x, family=binomial(link="probit")) f380 <- glm(y ~ log10x, family=binomial(link="probit")) summary(f1) summary(f180) f1$weights f180$weights # check weights divided by 8 to see if match -- match several decimal places, # but not exactly f1$weights/8 **** Shelly Lensing Biostatistics / University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including a...{{dropped:7}} ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.