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-- Bert

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Simon Garnier <sgarn...@princeton.edu> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I'm discovering the somehow confusing (for me) world of linear mixed models 
> after having been advised it could be the best option to analyze my dataset. 
> After several days of reading, I'm not sure that what I ended up with makes 
> some sense and I'd greatly appreciate any help and explanations.
>
> The dataset has been obtained as follows. In 15 different locations, I 
> counted during 10 seconds the number of ants crossing a gap, before and after 
> destroying a bridge that ants had previously built over the gap. I then 
> waited for the ants to rebuild the bridge and repeated two more times the 
> counting and destroying process. Therefore, for each gap observed, I have 3 
> replicates of the same experiment, each of them providing 1 count value for 
> each treatment tested (before and after bridge destruction), i.e. 6 values in 
> total per gap. I also measured for each gap its length.
>
> I now want to model the effect of the gap length (GapLength, continuous 
> variable), the treatment (Treatment, categorical variable) and the replicate 
> position (Replicate, categorical variable) on the number of ants crossing the 
> gap (AntCount, count variable). As far as I understand, the gap (Gap) can be 
> treated here as a random effect, the gap length, the treatment and the 
> replicate position as fixed effects. Moreover, the treatment variable is 
> nested in the replicate position variable that is also nested in the gap 
> variable. Finally, since I have count data, a poisson distribution should be 
> used for the model. With all this information in mind and some additional 
> information from various sources, I ended up with the following R code:
>
> lmer(AntCount ~ Treatment + GapLength + (Treatment | Gap / Replicate) + 
> (GapLength | Gap), data=dat, family=poisson(link=log))
>
> The code runs fine and does not return any error. But of course this does not 
> mean the model was correctly designed. Am I right when I'm doing this or am I 
> (most likely) completely wrong?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Best,
> Simon.
>
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Bert Gunter
Genentech Nonclinical Biostatistics

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