It seems not so much non-deterministic, as different on the first vs. following invocations ...

$ cat tz.R
Sys.setenv(TZ="Europe/London")
for (i in 1:10) {
   print(attr(as.POSIXlt(as.numeric(1:10)), 'tzone'))

$ Rscript  tz.R
[1] "Europe/London" "GMT"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"

$ Rscript  tz.R
[1] "Europe/London" "GMT"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"

$ Rscript  tz.R
[1] "Europe/London" "GMT"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"
[1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"


On 1/14/26 17:47, Michael Chirico via R-devel wrote:
As a test case I have code running 'as.POSIXlt(1:10)', which can
unfortunately produce non-deterministic results:

TZ=Europe/London R
attr(as.POSIXlt(as.numeric(1:10)), 'tzone')
# [1] "Europe/London" "GMT"           "BST"
attr(as.POSIXlt(as.numeric(1:10)), 'tzone')
# [1] "Europe/London" "BST"           "BST"

Is this intended behavior? I don't see this possibility described in
any of ?DateTimeClasses, ?strptime, ?timezones, or ?as.POSIXlt. Some
caching is mentioned around .sys.timezone, but the above snippets
don't have any relationship that I can see.

Mike C

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