On 1/12/24 06:11, Dipterix Wang wrote:
Dear R devs,

I was digging into a package issue today when I realized R serialize function 
not always generate the same results on equivalent objects when users choose to 
run differently. For example, the following code

serialize(with(new.env(), { function(){} }), NULL, TRUE)

generates different results when I copy-paste into console vs when I use 
ctrl+shift+enter to source the file in RStudio.

With a deeper inspect into the cause, I found that function and language get source 
reference when getOption("keep.source") is TRUE. This means the source 
reference will make the functions different while in most cases, whether keeping function 
source might not impact how a function behaves.

While it's OK that function serialize generates different results, functions 
such as `rlang::hash` and `digest::digest`, which depend on `serialize` might 
eventually deliver false positives on same inputs. I've checked source code in 
digest package hoping to get around this issue (for example serialize(..., 
refhook = ...)). However, my workaround did not work. It seems that the markers 
to the objects are different even if I used `refhook` to force srcref to be the 
same. I also tried `removeSource` and `rlang::zap_srcref`. None of them works 
directly on nested environments with multiple functions.

I wonder how hard it would be to have options to discard source when 
serializing R objects?

Currently my analyses heavily depend on digest function to generate file caches 
and automatically schedule pipelines (to update cache) when changes are 
detected. The pipelines save the hashes of source code, inputs, and outputs 
together so other people can easily verify the calculation without accessing 
the original data (which could be sensitive), or running hour-long analyses, or 
having to buy servers. All of these require `serialize` to produce the same 
results regardless of how users choose to run the code.

It would be great if this feature could be in the future R. Other pipeline 
packages such as `targets` and `drake` can also benefit from it.

I don't think such functionality would belong to serialize(). This function is not meant to produce stable results based on the input, the serialized representation may even differ based on properties not seen by users.

I think an option to ignore source code would belong to a function that computes the hash, as other options of identical().

Tomas


Thanks,

- Dipterix
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