On 10/11/23 23:12, George Ostrouchov wrote:
I agree that the "R Installation and Administration" guide statement about 
FlexiBLAS needs an update. Standard R in CentOS Stream 9, which is now downstream from 
Fedora, gives the following result for Matrix products in sessionInfo():

sessionInfo()
R version 4.3.1 (2023-06-16)
Platform: x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu (64-bit)
Running under: CentOS Stream 9

Matrix products: default
BLAS/LAPACK: FlexiBLAS OPENBLAS-OPENMP;  LAPACK version 3.9.0
…

So OpenBLAS compiled with OpenMP is the default. FlexiBLAS (via the flexiblas 
package) is my favorite way to manage core use in multithreaded BLAS 
computations. It is also the default in the EasyBuild foss compiler toolchain 
for HPC clusters: https://docs.easybuild.io/common-toolchains/

The output of session info is based on that flexiblas is used and on what flexiblas tells R is the backend it uses. R does not attempt to check that optimized LAPACK functions from the backend really end up called via flexiblas, and I don't think it could be realistically checked.

But I've checked one case manually in Fedora 38 using Linux perf tool. The following code:

S <- toeplitz((10:1)/10)
repeat { R <- rWishart(10, 20, S) }

uses dpotrf from LAPACK, which is optimized in OpenBLAS and ATLAS and the corresponding optimized implementations really appeared on the sampling profile for me from the backend libraries.

The comment from R Admin has been removed now and if anyone runs into the problem (that an optimized LAPACK function is not called from a backend that provides it), it would be best to report it with sufficient detail to flexiblas.

Best
Tomas

What would be a good way to suggest or construct an update?

Best regards,
George


Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2023 15:14:43 +0200
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Subject: [Rd] About FlexiBLAS in the R-admin docs
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Hi,

Not sure if this is the right place for this. The "R Installation and
Administration" guide states:

Apparently undocumented: FlexiBLAS on Fedora provides a complete LAPACK, but 
not the enhanced routines from ATLAS or OpenBLAS.
I'm not sure what this means. FlexiBLAS does provide 100% of BLAS and
LAPACK, and if the active backend (say, OpenBLAS) implements an
enhanced LAPACK routine, then the call is redirected to the backend.
If the user switches to another backend and that routine is not
available there, then the original LAPACK routine is dispatched
instead.

Best,
--
Iñaki Úcar


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