On 09/12/2014, 4:26 PM, Marc Schwartz wrote:
> 
>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Henrik Bengtsson <h...@biostat.ucsf.edu> wrote:
>>
>> On Dec 9, 2014 6:38 AM, "Apps Embedded" <apps.embed...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We have published an Android app called R Console on the Play Store since
>>> Décember 2013.
>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.appsopensource.R
>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.appsopensource.Rpremium
>>>
>>> In the mean time, we have developped its equivalent app for the App Store.
>>> We released it on march 2014. We have been approved from this date by Apple
>>> to publish it world wide.
>>> Recently, we learnt that GPL app are not compatible with the App Store
>>> distribution licence.
>>
>> What I would like to write here, would fall under "this is certainly
>> not a topic for R devel", so I refrain.
>>
>> However, I can say that it's likely your problems wouldn't have stopped 
>> there;
>>
>> [R] R on the iPhone/iPad? Not so much....a GPL violation
>> https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2010-June/240901.html
>>
>> /Henrik
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I might add that, given the intentions expressed below, in terms of doing 
> this on a jailbroken iOS device via Cydia, the concerns raised in the Apple 
> iOS SDK, that I referenced in the above linked post from 2010, essentially go 
> away. 
> 
> They would still be germane, as may now be expressed in the current SDK, 
> including the use of the new Swift language, if the OP's intent was to pursue 
> this via official AppStore channels and am surprised that it was approved by 
> Apple previously given the indicated content and functionality of the app.
> 
> The primary intention of jailbreaking an iOS device is, of course, to 
> circumvent Apple's restrictions on the software that can be installed by 
> using third party distribution channels and in the tools that can be used to 
> develop apps.
> 
> That being said, the licensing issues, as Duncan raised in his reply, are 
> still germane and permission from the R Foundation should be sought for any 
> uses involving R Foundation copyrighted content. That would be relevant for 
> both the iOS implementation and the Android implementation.

Just to be clear:  everybody already has permission from the R copyright
holders to use R within the existing licenses.  There's no need to seek
extra permission for that.

Trademarks are different...

Duncan Murdoch

> Regards,
> 
> Marc Schwartz
> 
> P.S. I echo's Duncan's comment, in that I am also a member of the R 
> Foundation, but am not speaking here on it's behalf.
> 
> 
>>
>>>
>>> Thus we decided to remove the iOS app from the App Store several days ago.
>>>
>>> We are thinking of publishing the same app published under Cydia with a
>>> freemium model.
>>> Its licence would be GPL v3.
>>>
>>> What we would like to do under Cydia with R Console is to have the
>>> following behavior :
>>> - free version will be able to run recommended packages and graphics are
>>> not enabled. A small ad banner is present on top of the app.
>>> - premium version will be the same as the free version except the ad banner
>>> will not be present anymore and 3 compilers will be integrated into the app
>>> in order to be able to compile and run most of the Cran packages from
>>> source.
>>> - graphics may be added in a second step.
>>>
>>> The app will be considered as a bundle of open-source tools. This bundle
>>> will be under the Gnu General Public Licence version 3. Each open-source
>>> tool which contributes to the overall bundle will stay in its original
>>> licence (R is GPL v2 for instance) but the bundle will be GPL v3.
>>>
>>>
>>>> From your point of view, do you see any legal issue with this project under
>>> Cydia for jailbroken iOS devices?
>>>> From a trademark point of view, is the name of the apps "R Console Free"
>>> and "R Console Premium" ok ?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>> Apps Embedded Team.
>

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