On 04/11/2014 01:43 PM, Simon Urbanek wrote:
Greg,

On Apr 11, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Gregory R. Warnes <g...@warnes.net>
wrote:

Hi All,

I see this in the NEWS for R 3.1.0:

type.convert() (and hence by default read.table()) returns a
character vector or factor when representing a numeric input as a
double would lose accuracy. Similarly for complex inputs.

This behavior seems likely to surprise users.

Can you elaborate why that would be surprising? It is consistent with
the intention of type.convert() to determine the correct type to
represent the value - it has always used character/factor as a
fallback where native type doesn't match.

Strictly speaking, I don't think this is true. If it were, it would not have been necessary to make the change so that it does now fallback to using character/factor. It may, however, have always been the intent.

I don't really think a warning is necessary, but there are some surprises:

> str(type.convert(format(1/3, digits=17))) # R-3.0.3
 num 0.333

> str(type.convert(format(1/3, digits=17))) # R-3.1.0
 Factor w/ 1 level "0.33333333333333331": 1

Now you could say that one should never do that, and the change is just flushing out a bug that was always there. But the point is that in serialization situations there can be some surprises. So, for example, RODBC talking to PostgresSQL databases is now returning factors rather than numerics for double precision fields, whereas with RPostgresSQL the behaviour has not changed.

Paul

It has never issued any
warning in that case historically, so IMHO it would be rather
surprising if it did now…

Cheers, Simon


Would it be possible to issue a warning when this occurs?

Aside: I’m very happy to see the new ’s’ and ‘f’ browser (debugger)
commands!

-Greg [[alternative HTML version deleted]]

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