On 3/20/2014 9:00 AM, Therneau, Terry M., Ph.D. wrote:


On 03/20/2014 07:48 AM, Michael Weylandt wrote:
On Mar 20, 2014, at 8:19, "Therneau, Terry M., Ph.D." <thern...@mayo.edu> wrote:

There is a central assertion to this argument that I don't follow:

At the end of the day most published results obtained with R just won't be reproducible.

This is a very strong assertion. What is the evidence for it?

If I've understood Jeroen correctly, his point might be alternatively phrased as "won't be reproducED" (i.e., end user difficulties, not software availability).

Michael


That was my point as well. Of the 30+ Sweave documents that I've produced I can't think of one that will change its output with a new version of R. My 0/30 estimate is at odds with the "nearly all" assertion. Perhaps I only do dull things?

Terry T.

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The only concrete example that comes to mind from my own Sweave reports was actually caused by BioConductor and not CRAN. I had a set of analyses that used DNAcopy, and the results changed substantially with a new release of the package in which they changed the default values to the main function call. As a result, I've taken to writing out more of the defaults that I previously just accepted. There have been a few minor issues similar to this one (with changes to parts of the Mclust package ??). So my estimates are somewhat higher than 0/30 but are still a long way from "almost all".

Kevin

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