On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Joshua Ulrich <josh.m.ulr...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Kasper Daniel Hansen > <kasperdanielhan...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I build from svn daily and I have not had this problem. I build in a >> tree separate from the source tree. >> >> I do think Hin-Tak has a point about clearly specifying that this is >> how you should do it, in the manual (if that has not already >> happened). As a casual user, I would expect make clean to clean out >> any stale files, but perhaps that is not happening. Anyway, seems >> more to be a possible documentation problem. >> > It's already in the R Installation and Administration Manual: > http://cran.r-project.org/doc/manuals/R-admin.html#Simple-compilation > > See the second-to-last paragraph. It recommends you do not build in > the top-level source directory, particularly when you work with a > version of R from Subversion.
Ok, this certainly recommends doing it in another build tree, so I think it is quite clearly documented. Kasper > Best, > Josh > >> Kasper >> >> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Simon Urbanek >> <simon.urba...@r-project.org> wrote: >>> On Feb 15, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Hin-Tak Leung wrote: >>> >>>> --- On Fri, 15/2/13, Simon Urbanek <simon.urba...@r-project.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Feb 15, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Hin-Tak >>>>> Leung wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Somebody else had written separately about this before, >>>>> and so have I a couple of months ago. I assumed this will be >>>>> fixed before the next R. Since R 3.0 is supposedly only 6 >>>>> weeks away, even if it is fixed now it doesn't leave much >>>>> room for testing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyway neither Matrix 1.0-11 (current) nor 1.0-9 (sept >>>>> 2012) build with current R trunk. The last time >>>>> it did was 1. 0-9 on 3rd october over 4 months ago. So it >>>>> appears to be due to change inside r trunk in sept or early >>>>> oct. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> No problem here - Matrix 1.0-11 and R-devel build just fine >>>>> with your flags (tested on Ubuntu 12.10, x86_64). >>>>> >>>>> If in doubt, please remove R-devel and checkout a fresh >>>>> copy. Also FWIW it's a bad practice to build inside the >>>>> sources - it often causes all sorts of problems when you try >>>>> to track the sources and stale files are probably what's >>>>> hitting you. >>>>> >>>>> FWIW: This is likely not the problem you're mentioning, but >>>>> some recent gcc versions break and LTO is also known to >>>>> cause issues depending on the compiler version, so tread >>>>> lightly on the cutting edge. >>>> >>>> >>>> Here is a fairly similar post: >>>> http://r.789695.n4.nabble.com/Build-from-Source-fails-on-Loading-required-package-Matrix-td4640371.html >>>> >>>> The eventual "solution" of that thread seems to be building from tar ball, >>>> which is quite beside the whole point of building from svn trunk. >>>> >>> >>> And how is that relevant to what I said? Did you follow the advice I sent? >>> If you did and still have an issue, post *exact* details on what you did, >>> what system and tools you are using. >>> >>> >>>> FWIW, it is very unproductive to talk about "bad practice" - in a >>>> hand-waving undocumented/unsubstantiated manner >>> >>> Building in sources has two problems: a) the content of the source tree can >>> change so subsequent builds can be different from the clean one - you >>> cannot undo that and b) if you update the sources stale files from previous >>> builds can break the build. >>> >>> If solving your problems is "unproductive" then I'm not surprised you have >>> them for 4 moths now. >>> >>> >>>> - and options that might or might not work. If "--enable-lto" (or any >>>> other options, or build within the dev directory) does not work reliably, >>>> it should be either disabled/removed, or documented, or both. >>> >>> R cannot test all aspects of a compiler and detect all its bugs. It is >>> *your* responsibility to provide a working compiler - if you are unwilling >>> to do that, R cannot do anything about that. >>> >>> >>>> Anyway, it has not been working for over 4 months. >>>> >>> >>> That is not true, obviously, and I have presented a counter-example. It may >>> not have been working for *you* and it's likely a problem in your setup >>> (given your lack of cooperation there is no way to tell for sure). We >>> cannot prevent user errors. We can try to point people in the right >>> direction, but if they refuse to listen it's on their head. >>> >>> >>>> You have about 6 weeks before this becomes a big problem - "big" as in >>>> "wide-spread". >>>> >>> >>> You are yet to show that this is a problem in R at all. You failed to >>> follow the basic instructions in the FAQ. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Simon >>> >>> >>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Simon >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------- >>>>>> Loading required package: Matrix >>>>>> Error in namespaceExport(ns, exports) : undefined >>>>> exports: .M.classEnv >>>>>> Error : require(Matrix) is not TRUE >>>>>> ERROR: installing package indices failed >>>>>> * removing ‘/svn-loc/R/library/Matrix’ >>>>>> * restoring previous ‘/svn-loc/R/library/Matrix’ >>>>>> make[2]: *** [Matrix.ts] Error 1 >>>>>> make[2]: Leaving directory >>>>> `/svn-loc/R/src/library/Recommended' >>>>>> make[1]: *** [recommended-packages] Error 2 >>>>>> make[1]: Leaving directory >>>>> `/svn-loc/R/src/library/Recommended' >>>>>> make: *** [stamp-recommended] Error 2 >>>>>> ---------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> If it matters, here is what r trunk built with: >>>>>> ./configure --enable-memory-profiling >>>>> --enable-strict-barrier --enable-byte-compiled-packages >>>>> --with-valgrind-instrumentation=2 --enable-lto >>>>>> >>>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>>> R-devel@r-project.org >>>>> mailing list >>>>>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________ >>> R-devel@r-project.org mailing list >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel >> >> ______________________________________________ >> R-devel@r-project.org mailing list >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel > > > -- > Joshua Ulrich | about.me/joshuaulrich > FOSS Trading | www.fosstrading.com > > R/Finance 2013: Applied Finance with R | www.RinFinance.com ______________________________________________ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
