Another potential problem with the xlim=c(5,NA) type of approach is that if I am calculating the limits (as I often do) and have a bug in my calculation, such that I get an NA for one of the limits, then my plot would succeed rather than fail -- and succeed with hard to predict results. This will make it harder for me to discover my bug, I think.
Where this potential problem lies in a scale of "seriousness" relative to other potential problems ... I have no idea. -Don -- Don MacQueen Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory 7000 East Ave., L-627 Livermore, CA 94550 925-423-1062 On 4/16/12 12:15 PM, "Duncan Murdoch" <murdoch.dun...@gmail.com> wrote: >On 12-04-16 2:26 PM, William Dunlap wrote: >> plot(1:10, xlim=c(10,1)) reverses the x axis. >> If we allow plot(1:10, xlim=c(5,NA)), which >> direction should it go? Would this require new >> parameters, {x,y}{min,max} or new paremeters >> {x,y}{axisDirection}? > >I'd rather not add another parameter. So if I were to implement this, >I'd probably choose Paul's original suggestion. If someone wants c(5, >NA) to mean c(5, min(data)) rather than c(5, max(data)) they'd need to >code it explicitly. > >Duncan Murdoch > >> >> Bill Dunlap >> Spotfire, TIBCO Software >> wdunlap tibco.com >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: r-devel-boun...@r-project.org >>>[mailto:r-devel-boun...@r-project.org] On Behalf >>> Of Duncan Murdoch >>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 11:14 AM >>> To: Paul Johnson >>> Cc: R Devel List >>> Subject: Re: [Rd] I wish xlim=c(0, NA) would work. How about I send >>>you a patch? >>> >>> On 12-04-16 1:52 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: >>>> I'm looking for an R mentor. I want to propose a change in management >>>> of plot options xlim and ylim. >>> >>> Your suggestion sounds reasonable, but because plot limits are such a >>> commonly used parameter, it would have to be done quite carefully. The >>> questions I'd ask before implementing it are: >>> >>> - Are there other locations besides plot.default where xlim and ylim >>> are specified? I'd like to have them updated consistently. >>> >>> - Are there any conflicting uses of NA for a limit in published >>>packages? >>> >>> - Which package authors would need to be told about this change, so >>> they could make a compatible change? >>> >>> - Where does it need to be documented? >>> >>> Duncan Murdoch >>> >>>> >>>> Did you ever want to change one coordinate in xlim or ylim? It happens >>>> to me all the time. >>>> >>>> x<- rnorm(100, m=5, s=1) >>>> y<- rnorm(100, m=6, s=1) >>>> plot(x,y) >>>> >>>> ## Oh, I want the "y axis" to show above x=0. >>>> >>>> plot(x,y, xlim=c(0, )) >>>> >>>> ##Output: Error in c(0, ) : argument 2 is empty >>>> >>>> plot(x,y, xlim=c(0,NA )) >>>> ## Output: Error in plot.window(...) : need finite 'xlim' values >>>> >>>> >>>> I wish that plot would let me supply just the min (or max) and then >>>> calculate the other value where needed. >>>> It is a little bit tedious for the user to do that for herself. The >>>> user must be knowledgeable enough to know where the maximum (MAX) is >>>> supposed to be, and then supply xlim=c(0, MAX). I can't see any reason >>>> for insisting users have that deeper understanding of how R calculates >>>> ranges for plots. >>>> >>>> Suppose the user is allowed to supply NA to signal R should fill in >>>>the blanks. >>>> >>>> plot(x,y, xlim=c(0, NA)) >>>> >>>> >>>> In plot.default now, I find this code to manage xlim >>>> >>>> xlim<- if (is.null(xlim)) >>>> range(xy$x[is.finite(xy$x)]) >>>> >>>> And I would change it to be something like >>>> ##get default range >>>> nxlim<- range(xy$x[is.finite(xy$x)]) >>>> >>>> ## if xlim is NULL, so same as current >>>> xlim<- if (is.null(xlim)) nxlim >>>> ## Otherwise, replace NAs in xlim with values from nxlim >>>> else xlim[ is.na(xlim) ]<- nxlim[ is.na(xlim) ] >>>> >>>> >>>> Who is the responsible party for plot.default. How about it? >>>> >>>> Think of how much happier users would be! >>>> >>>> pj >>> >>> ______________________________________________ >>> R-devel@r-project.org mailing list >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel > >______________________________________________ >R-devel@r-project.org mailing list >https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel ______________________________________________ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel