On 11-07-19 8:01 PM, Mike Marchywka wrote:







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Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 06:13:01 -0700
From: jeroen.o...@stat.ucla.edu
To: r-devel@r-project.org
Subject: [Rd] Randomness not due to seed

I am working on a reproducible computing platform for which I would like to
be able to _exactly_ reproduce an R object. However, I am experiencing
unexpected randomness in some calculations. I have a hard time finding out
exactly how it occurs. The code below illustrates the issue.

mylm1<- lm(dist~speed, data=cars);
mylm2<- lm(dist~speed, data=cars);
identical(mylm1, mylm2); #TRUE

makelm<- function(){
return(lm(dist~speed, data=cars));
}

mylm1<- makelm();
mylm2<- makelm();
identical(mylm1, mylm2); #FALSE

When inspecting both objects there seem to be some rounding differences.
Setting a seed does not make a difference. Is there any way I can remove
this randomness and exactly reproduce the object every time?

I don't know if anyone had a specific answer for this

I think Bill Dunlap's answer addressed it:  the claim appears to be false.

Duncan Murdoch

but in general floating point is not
something for which you want to make bitwise equality tests. You can check the 
Intel
website for some references but IIRC the FPU can start your calculation with 
bits or
settings ( flushing denorms to zero for example) left over from the last user 
although I can't document that.

for example, you can probably find more like this suggesting that changes in 
alignmnet
and rounding in preamble code can be significant,

http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/consistency-of-floating-point-results-using-the-intel-compiler/

and of course if your algorithm is numerically sensitive results could change a 
lot. Now
its also possible you have unitiliazed or corrupt memory, but you would need to
consider that you will not get bit wise reproduvibility. You can of course go 
to java
if you really want that LOL.







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