On Jan 15, 2010, at 10:22 , Seth Falcon wrote:

On 1/15/10 12:19 AM, Kurt Hornik wrote:
Jeff Ryan writes:

Hi Ross,
The quantmod package makes available routines from a variety of
contributed packages, but gets around your issues with a bit of, um,
trickery.

Take a look here (unless your name is Kurt ;-) ):

I believe another option is:

  pkg <- "somePkg"
  pkgAvail <- require(pkg, character.only = TRUE)
  if (pkgAvail)
     ...
  else
     ...


That is not an option - that is the code you usually use with Suggests: (except for the pkg assignment which is there I presume to obscure things).



But Kurt will we happy to tell you that you can turn off "forcing"
suggested packages for checking by setting

 _R_CHECK_FORCE_SUGGESTS_=false

in your environment.  The idea is that maintainers typically want to
fully check their functionality, suggesting to force suggests by
default.

Unless the public repositories such as CRAN and Bioconductor decide to
set this option, it provides no solution for anyone who maintains or
plans to make available a package through a public R repository such as
CRAN or Bioconductor.

There is a real need (of some kind) here. Not all packages work on all platforms. For example, the multicore package provides a mechanism for
running parallel computations on a multi-cpu box, but it is not
available on Windows.  A package that _is_ available on all platforms
should be able to optionally make use of multicore on non-Windows.  I
don't think there is a way to do that now

... there are 10 packages on CRAN that officially suggest multicore and there is no issue with their checks. I suspect you are making up an issue here that doesn't really exist ...

As Kurt pointed out the checking is optional and makes sense to test the optional capability. You'd have to ask him but I don't think Kurt refuses packages because they suggest something that is not available everywhere ...


and pass check without
resorting to "tricks" as above.  These tricks are bad as they make it
harder to programmatically determine the true "suggests".


Hence I don't see why your should even pst them ;).

Cheers,
Simon


And NAMESPACE brings up another issue in that being able to do
conditional imports would be very useful for these cases, otherwise you simply can't make proper use of name spaces for any optional functionality.

I'm willing to help work on and test a solution if we can arrive at some
consensus as to what the solution looks like.

Best,

+ seth

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