Thanks a lot for all the replies! We managed now to solve our problem by
replacing the rand / srand functions by R's random number generator and now the results on windows and linux agree.

Thanks again!

Klaus

Paul Gilbert wrote:
I cannot say what the problem is in your code, but in general it is possible to get the same random sequences from Linux and Windows with R's Mersenne Twister generator. If you generate long sequences (say 10s of thousands) and then start doing comparisons involving remainders, like differencing the sums of two mean zero sequences, then differences between libraries will show up. I have found bigger differences between Linux variants than I have between Windows and most Linuxes.

Paul Gilbert

Klaus Nordhausen wrote:
Dear R experts,

we are preparing an R-package to compute the Oja Median which contains
some C++ code in which random numbers are needed. To generate the random
numbers we use the following Mersenne-Twister implementation:

// MersenneTwister.h
// Mersenne Twister random number generator -- a C++ class MTRand
// Based on code by Makoto Matsumoto, Takuji Nishimura, and Shawn Cokus
// Richard J. Wagner  v1.0  15 May 2003  rjwag...@writeme.com

the random seed for the Mersenne-Twister is provided by our R-function
which gives an (random) integer to  the C++ function srand() which in
turn sets the seed in the code.

Using the set.seed in R makes now the results reproducible, but the
results differ between windows and linux.

Does anyone know what the problem there is?

Our suspicion is that the reason is that some libraries are different
implemented on linux and windows (XP) compilers.

After the program start we set the seed in row 447(vkm.cpp) with srand(int);

When the median will be calculated, an intern seed is set with unsigned
 int seed = rand();   ( in row 100 (vkm.cpp)). This seed will be used
to calculate some random subsets and to
create a Mersenne Twister object with MTRand rr(seed); (row 156, vkm.cpp).

The MTRand Object rr is called with an unsigned Integer, so the
important function in the mersenneTwister.h class is in line 87:
MTRand( const uint32& oneSeed );

According to that the Random Number Generator uses the methods
initialize(oneSeed); and reload();  (inside the method, beginning in
line 215)

This both methods (line 283 and line 301) are using beside others
registers. Could it be that there is a different behavior between
Windows and Linux?

We do not want to use only srand() since we might need more then the
number of pseudo random numbers that algorithm can provide.

For those interested and which would like to see the code, a first
version of the package, called OjaMedian, is available as source file
and windows binary on my homepage:
http://www.uta.fi/~klaus.nordhausen/down.html

The problem is in the ojaMedian function when the evolutionary algorithm
is used. Involved C++-files are mainly vkm.cpp and MersenneTwister.h.

We would be very grateful for any advice on how to solve this problem.
(below is also a demonstration)

Thank you very much in advance,

Klaus

Results on windows XP:

Compiler used: gcc version 4.2.1-sjlj (mingw32-2)

library(OjaMedian)
set.seed(1)
testD <- rmvnorm(20,c(0,0))
summary(testD)
       V1                V2
 Min.   :-2.2147   Min.   :-1.989352
 1st Qu.:-0.3844   1st Qu.:-0.399466
 Median : 0.3597   Median :-0.054967
 Mean   : 0.1905   Mean   :-0.006472
 3rd Qu.: 0.7590   3rd Qu.: 0.655663
 Max.   : 1.5953   Max.   : 1.358680
set.seed(1)
ojaMedian(testD)
[1]  0.21423705 -0.05799643
sessionInfo()
R version 2.9.0 (2009-04-17)
i386-pc-mingw32

locale:
LC_COLLATE=Finnish_Finland.1252;LC_CTYPE=Finnish_Finland.1252;LC_MONETARY=Finnish_Finland.1252;LC_NUMERIC=C;LC_TIME=Finnish_Finland.1252

attached base packages:
[1] stats     graphics  grDevices utils     datasets  methods   base

other attached packages:
[1] OjaMedian_0.0-14 ICSNP_1.0-3      ICS_1.2-1        survey_3.14
[5] mvtnorm_0.9-5

loaded via a namespace (and not attached):
[1] tools_2.9.0


Results on Linux Kubuntu 8.10
result of: cat /proc/version:
Linux version 2.6.28-11-generic (bui...@palmer) (gcc version 4.3.3
(Ubuntu 4.3.3-5ubuntu4) ) #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009

library(OjaMedian)
 set.seed(1)
 testD <- rmvnorm(20,c(0,0))
 summary(testD)

       V1                V2
 Min.   :-2.2147   Min.   :-1.989352
 1st Qu.:-0.3844   1st Qu.:-0.399466
 Median : 0.3597   Median :-0.054967
 Mean   : 0.1905   Mean   :-0.006472
 3rd Qu.: 0.7590   3rd Qu.: 0.655663
 Max.   : 1.5953   Max.   : 1.358680

set.seed(1)
 ojaMedian(testD)

(-0.501381, 0.193929)[1] 0.119149071 0.002732100

sessionInfo()

R version 2.8.1 (2008-12-22)
i486-pc-linux-gnu

locale:
LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8;LC_NUMERIC=C;LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8;LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8;LC_MONETARY=C;LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8;LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8;LC_NAME=C;LC_ADDRESS=C;LC_TELEPHONE=C;LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8;LC_IDENTIFICATION=C

attached base packages:
[1] stats     graphics  grDevices utils     datasets  methods   base

other attached packages:
[1] OjaMedian_0.0-14 ICSNP_1.0-3      ICS_1.2-1        survey_3.14
[5] mvtnorm_0.9-5





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