> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Lumley
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 11:24 AM
> To: François Pinard
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Rd] Possible bug in R 2.6.1 (PR#10565)
> 
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2008, [iso-8859-1] François Pinard wrote:
> 
> > [Brian Ripley]
> >
> >> I do often wonder why people are 'sure you know for certain' (to 
> >> quote the
> >> FAQ) that something as elementary as this would be a bug 
> for so many 
> >> years.  It indicates a lack of respect for the R developers.
> >
> > Not at all.  A bug report may be naive, or even wrong, and still be 
> > driven by good will, and be rightly interpreted as an attempt at a 
> > contribution to both the R community and R developers.
> >
> 
> Brian's point is

  ... and François Pinard's is that you should (sic) be more tolerant and 
forgiving to _your_ users.

BTW, my standing ovations to François Pinard excellent language and wordings. I 
wish I could do it as well :-(


Thanks for understanding,

Latchezar Dimitrov


> that there is an *explicit* request (in both 
> the posting guide and the FAQ) not to send things to R-bugs 
> unless you are *sure* they are bugs.  Queries about 
> *possible* bugs are welcome on r-devel or r-help as appropriate.
> 
> Someone who sends a query about a possible bug to r-bugs has 
> either not read the posting guide or has chosen to ignore the 
> request. It is possible that the request in the posting guide 
> is not sufficiently clear and they just misunderstand it, but 
> I haven't seen anyone claim this. If that's what you mean, 
> then suggestions for making it clearer would be considered.
> 
> If someone presents code  on r-help or r-devel that produces 
> behaviour they don't understand and asks if it is bug (rather 
> than asserting that it must be a bug) they have a much higher 
> chance of receiving a friendly reply [and an even higher 
> chance of receiving a helpful reply]
> 
> 
>     -thomas
> 
> Thomas Lumley                 Assoc. Professor, Biostatistics
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]     University of Washington, Seattle
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