Roger, Thanks.
Yes, this I know. In fact I have a line in my shell script for building R[-patched]: ./configure R_PAPERSIZE=letter R_PAPERSIZE is document in several places, however R_PAPERSIZE_DEFAULT is not, unless I am going blind in my middle age... :-) Regards, Marc On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 14:44 -0400, Roger D. Peng wrote: > Papersize can be set at compile time in the 'config.site' file (R_PAPERSIZE). > > -roger > > Marc Schwartz (via MN) wrote: > > Prof. Ripley, > > > > Happy to help. > > > > So, it sounds like we are thinking along the same lines then. > > > > A couple of follow up questions: > > > > 1. Is R_PAPERSIZE_DEFAULT to be the proposed new compile time setting in > > 2.4.0? Unless I missed it, I did not see it documented anywhere (ie. > > R-admin/NEWS for 2.2.1 patched or 2.3.0 devel) and it is not in the > > configure related files that I have here. > > > > 2. For LC_ALL, it is not set (at least on my FC4 system, have not had > > the time yet to go to FC5) in en_US.UTF-8. Is it set in other locales > > such that it would be of value? > > > > > > Thanks also for the pointer to the devel guidelines. I had read through > > them at some point in the past, but it has been a while. > > > > Regards, > > > > Marc > > > > On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 18:48 +0100, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: > >> Marc, > >> > >> Thanks for the comments. The 2.3.x series is in feature freeze, and > >> although a few features do break though for patch releases, they had > >> better be `badly needed' see > >> http://developer.r-project.org/devel-guidelines.txt). > >> > >> So I was thinking of 2.4.0. > >> > >> My suggestion was going to be along the lines of > >> > >> local({ > >> papersize <- as.vector(Sys.getenv("R_PAPERSIZE")) > >> if(!nchar(papersize)) { > >> lcpaper <- Sys.getlocale("LC_PAPER") > >> if(nchar(lcpaper)) > >> papersize <- if(length(grep(, lcpaper)) > 0) "letter" else "a4" > >> else papersize <- as.vector(Sys.getenv("R_PAPERSIZE_DEFAULT")) > >> } > >> options(papersize = papersize) > >> }) > >> > >> This is unchanged if LC_PAPER is unset. For those with LC_PAPER set, > >> its value takes precedence over the compile-time default. That's almost > >> exactly equivalent to what happens on Windows (which sets LC_MONETARY for > >> this purpose, as LC_PAPER is not a locale category there). > >> > >> Now, one could argue that if LC_PAPER is unset it should default to > >> LC_ALL, but I think is less desirable. > >> > >> Of course, at present Sys.getlocale("LC_PAPER") is not supported, so > >> that's part of the TODO. > >> > >> Brian > >> > >> > >> On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, Marc Schwartz (via MN) wrote: > >> > >>> On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 08:09 +0100, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: > >>>> R uses the environment variable R_PAPERSIZE to set its papersize, e.g. > >>>> for > >>>> postscript. > >>>> > >>>> It seems the modern way is to via LC_PAPER, e.g. > >>>> > >>>> http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-utf8/2002-05/msg00010.html > >>>> > >>>> and Googling will show that people expect this to work. > >>>> > >>>> However, that is not set on my FC3 system, and it would affect people who > >>>> use en_US as their locale in, say, Austria. > >>>> > >>>> Should we be making use of LC_PAPER, or would it just cause further > >>>> complications? (On Windows, the locale name is used to set the default > >>>> papersize, but there it is unlikely to be set inappropriately.) > >>> > >>> Here's my 0.0162 Euros (at current conversion rates): > >>> > >>> For R 2.4.0, announce that LC_PAPER will become the default environment > >>> variable used to set the default R papersize and then not set > >>> R_PAPERSIZE by default (ie. in build scripts, etc.) > >>> > >>> However, If someone sets R_PAPERSIZE in their site or local profile, > >>> this will supercede the LC_PAPER setting. This would allow for a R > >>> setting that may need to be different than the system default. > >>> > >>> Doing this for 2.4.0 (as opposed to 2.3.x) would give folks notice and > >>> time to consider the impact on their local installations and code, while > >>> enabling future users to take advantage of the standard. > >>> > >>> I think that in general, R should abide by published standards unless > >>> there are very compelling reasons not to. > >>> > >>> HTH, > >>> > >>> Marc Schwartz > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > ______________________________________________ > > R-devel@r-project.org mailing list > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel > > > ______________________________________________ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel