Uwe Ligges wrote: > Gabor Grothendieck wrote: > > >>On 7/6/05, Uwe Ligges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>>Gabor Grothendieck wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>On 7/6/05, Martin Maechler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>"Gabor" == Gabor Grothendieck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>> on Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:24:49 -0400 writes: >>>>> >>>>>....................... >>>>>....................... >>>>> >>>>> Gabor> I have cleaned up my batch files (somewhat) and posted them to >>>>> Gabor> CRAN. See my recent post: >>>>> Gabor> >>>>> https://www.stat.math.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2005-July/073400.html >>>>> >>>>> Gabor> If any of this functionality could migrate to R >>>>> Gabor> itself that would be great. >>>>> >>>>> ........ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Gabor> 2. Also if Rcmd CHECK and Rcmd INSTALL were to >>>>> Gabor> process .Rbuildignore like Rcmd BUILD does then >>>>> Gabor> makepkg.bat would not have to do a build first. >>>>> >>>>>No! {We have been here before, and I had explained before that} >>>>>this is really undesired: ".Rbuildignore" should contain what is >>>>>ignored by build, but not by "check". >>>>>It does make sense to have extra code and / or checks for 'R CMD check' >>>>>that I as package developer want to run, but that are >>>>>-- too time consuming >>>>>-- too platform specific >>>>>-- ...... >>>>>to be run during the daily checks on CRAN (e.g.) / >>>>>to be run by others at all. >>>>> >>>>>{And BTW, AFAIK, 'Rcmd' is now `somewhat deprecated' in favor >>>>>of "R CMD" since the latter is portable } >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>Martin >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>I think its too heavy handed an approach. This should be up to the package >>>>developer via a switch. I like to put partially written code and other >>>>things >>>>not intended for distribution in .Rbuildignore and don't want them checked >>>>or >>>>installed until I move them out of .Rbuildignore. That makes it >>>>possible to keep >>>>everything together. Without this one must 1. keep them elsewhere >>>>(which I am considering as an alternate approach to what I do now although >>>>it would be a shame) or else 2. write batch files (which I have >>>>written for XP) to do >>>>a prebuild every time one does a check or install. >>>> >>>>One annoying aspect of R CMD is the requirement for capitalization. Maybe >>>>that's ok on UNIX but on Windows one is used to using upper and lower >>>>case interchangeably. Its also annoying to have to write two words instead >>>>of >>>>one for a frequently issued command. At any rate I always call it through >>> >>>Gabor, honestly, this is nonsense. >>> >>>1. Do you expect that R also changes under Windows because you are used >>>to mix upper and lower case and want to say SUMMARY() or rowsums()? >>>2. Do you really thing it is annoying to type "R CMD" rather than >>>"Rcmd"? Hmm, anybody else has a space bar left for Gabor? >>> >>>Best, >>>Uwe >>> >>> >>> >>>>my Rcmd.bat batch file so its not really an issue for me. >> >> >>It was claimed its portable and that is true in the strictest sense that it >>works on both UNIX and Windows but it would be even more >>desirable if it were not just portable but also worked the way the target >>system worked rather than just acting like a UNIX utility does >>on Windows. Ideally it would work as other Windows utilities work, >>e.g. note that we run the following using upper and lower case and >>get the same result: >> >>C:> net use ? >>The syntax of this command is: >>NET USE >>[devicename | *] [\\computername\sharename[\volume] [password | *]] >>... >> >>C:> NET USE ? >>The syntax of this command is: >>NET USE >>[devicename | *] [\\computername\sharename[\volume] [password | *]] >>... > > > No! That something completely different: If Windows allows to use "net > use" and "NET USE" even if only the latter is the documeted way, OK. > These are, as you mentioned yourself, *Windows utilities* and you don't > want to port this syntax. > > But if you type "R cmd", it is no longer portable, and "Rcmd" for sure > is not. "R CMD" is an R utility --- and R behaves case senstive. > > Uwe Ligges
In fact, on Windows R is not case sensitive in the 1st or 3rd word on the line "R CMD install", only in the 2nd, so I can see Gabor's point. However, I have to admit I always use "Rcmd install"; I put the "R CMD ..." version in place to help Unix refugees. Duncan Murdoch ______________________________________________ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
