On Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 6:55:07 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote:

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> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 10:55 AM 'taran1s' via qubes-users <
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>> Hi, I am trying to make work the sys-net and sys-firewall under 
>> debian-10-minimal template, instead of fedora-33, but without success. 
>> Fedora is annoying with its updates and also I would like to decrease 
>> the exposure to the complexity of fedora-33 full template wherever 
>> possible.
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> I don't have any suggestion for the Debian issue, but what I do to limit 
> the updates is clone the fedora-33-minimal to a template called 
> fedora-33-net, strip out any apps not needed, and then use that for my 
> networking AppVM's. With fewer apps there are far fewer updates to deal 
> with. 
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 Hi,
I use Debian 10 for sys-net. It works great.

Here are the steps that works for me.
1 - Install the minimal template for debian 10
2 - Update the template
3 - Install the qubes-core-agent-passwordless-root package (if you want)
4 - Shutdown the template
5 - Create a clone of the template (deb-10-sys)
6 - Start deb-10-sys
7 - Install the following package: qubes-core-agent-networking 
qubes-core-agent-network-manager pciutils
8 - Shutdown deb-10-sys
9 - Change the template for sys-net to deb-10-sys (after shutting down all 
qubes) and start sys-net
10 - If everything works (wired and wireless) you are good to go if not
11 - Start xterm in sys-net
12 - Use lspci to see the info of the card that is not working
13 - Search the web to see which firmware needs to be installed in debian 
to support that card
14 - Start deb-10-sys, install the firmware and shutdown deb-10-sys
15 - Restart sys-net - everything should work

I know I have use debian for firewall and USB in the past but went back to 
Fedora for USB because of some issue (don't even remember what issue) and I 
am now trying Mirage for firewall.

Hope it helps!

D.

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