Hi all,

(resent here since something seems to block with qubes-devel)

I'm probably missing something in how the build is supposed to work:

Following the build instructions at 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/qubes-iso-building/,
configuring with ./setup, first with NO_SIGN=1.  The build of rpm-dom0-fc25
succeeds, and then the build of linux-dom0-updates-dom0-fc25 fails with:

 Downloading Packages:
 [SKIPPED] perl-Fedora-VSP-0.001-4.fc25.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded
 [SKIPPED] perl-generators-1.10-1.fc25.noarch.rpm: Already downloaded
 Package rpm-devel-4.14.2.1-5.fc25.x86_64.rpm is not signed


At first I thought that maybe the NO_SIGN=1 case was not being as much used
as the NO_SIGN=0 one, so I went generating a key and configure it as
explained in https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/qubes-builder/.
Doing that I noted one accuracy (see 
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-doc/pull/1167)
which I hopefully circumvented, but that did not help.

I'm not even sure I understand how signatures are supposed to be generated, 
since
there is this optional "make sign-all" to be run *after* "make qubes": it seems
likely normal that configuring things for the later step does not impact the 
earlier
one.

Setting VERBOSE=1 and even DEBUG=1 does not seem to help in understanding what 
exact
step is at fault.  I could not find an "understanding how the build system 
works",
which would greatly help onboarding new devs :)

Also retried after setting SIGN_KEY, still same result.

Also retried by copying the example-configs/qubes-os-r4.0.conf instead of
using ./setup, still same result.

I also note some peculiar content in this ./setup-generated conf, eg.
"DIST_DOM0 ?= fc20", when the targeted version correctly seems to be set to 
fc25.


What did I miss ?


Also, is it really a good thing to have 2 separate pages talking about roughly 
the
same thing, with /doc/qubes-builder/ telling about NO_SIGN (which we see in 
templates)
and .rpmmacros, and /doc/qubes-iso-building/ talking about "fully signed build" 
using
SIGN_KEY (which we don't see in templates) ?

Best regards,
-- 
Yann

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