On Wed, May 12, 2021, 5:52 PM Ulrich Windl <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On 4/30/21 1:31 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> > Dear Qubes Community,
> >
> > Fedora 32 is scheduled to reach EOL (end-of-life [1]) on 2021-05-25.
>
> I have a question on https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade/
> :
>
> Towards the end of the update procedure "Detailed instructions for
> standard Fedora TemplateVMs" there is the command
> [user@dom0 ~]$ sudo dnf remove qubes-template-fedora-<old>
>
> However I wonder: I did not install a fedora-<new> template per
> instructions, and I wonder about this asymmetry.


When you installed Qubes the default templates were installed for you.
Because the fedora-32 came onto your system as an rpm it can only be
removed by removing that rpm. To remove it, if you wish, you need to change
all AppVMs to use some other template, to remove any qubes dependencies,
then you remove the rpm.

If you want to see all the default rpm templates you can do: "dom0> rpm -qa
| grep qubes-template". Those templates need to be removed via dnf or rpm
rather than just deleting it from the qube-manager or the qvm-* command
line tool. When you clone a template it will not have an rpm file
associated with it, so it can be removed easily using qube-manager.

I always clone all the rpm templates then remove the rpm's, and then rename
the clones to the name I actually want. If I ever need a fresh copy I can
always reinstall the rpm and clone it to start over.

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