On 3/27/21 2:50 AM, Franz wrote:


On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 9:10 AM Franz <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hello,
    everything seems to work fine:

    gpg2 --check-signatures "Qubes OS Release 4 Signing Key"
    pub   rsa4096 2017-03-06 [SC]
           5817A43B283DE5A9181A522E1848792F9E2795E9
    uid           [  full  ] Qubes OS Release 4 Signing Key
    sig!3        1848792F9E2795E9 2017-03-06  Qubes OS Release 4 Signing Key
    sig!         DDFA1A3E36879494 2017-03-08  Qubes Master Signing Key
    gpg: 2 good signatures

    gpg2 -k "Qubes OS Release"
    pub   rsa4096 2014-11-19 [SC]
           C52261BE0A823221D94CA1D1CB11CA1D03FA5082
    uid           [  full  ] Qubes OS Release 3 Signing Key
    pub   rsa4096 2017-03-06 [SC]
           5817A43B283DE5A9181A522E1848792F9E2795E9
    uid           [  full  ] Qubes OS Release 4 Signing Key

    but when I try to verify get unexpected error, even after
    downloading two times the files, and even after trying with Fedora
    and Debian:

    gpg2 -v --verify qubes-release-4-signing-key.asc
    Qubes-R4.0.4-x86_64.iso
    gpg: verify signatures failed: Unexpected error


I found the problem: I downloaded
Qubes release signing key
rather than
Detached PGP signature

Well frankly, IMO the name of the wrong file seems more appropriate than the right one. How is  "Detached PGP signature" supposed to be easy to understand? :-)

PGP/GPG basics: Normally when signing a file, the file is changed (signature appended (basically)). With a detached signature, the signed file is unchanged, and the signature is a separate "detached" file. That's a detached signature.

Of course to check a signature you need the signing key as well as the detached signature.

Detached from what? Well, I am sure it is detached from something, but I lost hours for nothing and other users may simply avoid verifying the iso if it is too complicated. Once there was only one file that could be downloaded. Well I understand the additional files may have some additional use, but there are a lot of people that are not interested in that and just need an easy and fast way to get it going. So perhaps it may be more appropriate to add to the detached file also the wording "use this file to follow the Qubes verification tutorial"
Best
Franz

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