Great discussion, 

In many industries a vendor analysis is conducted on a multitude of parameters 
to indentify the best vendor.  As many from outside the Qubes world have 
gravitated to Qubes for those reasons.  

>From what I am reading, we need all hands on deck and a war chest. 
>Ideologically, you are doing what most IT enterprises whish they could do. 
>From a user stand point, updates are a risk if you can't roll them back. 

There was a mention of a 3rd party vendors that provides installation bridges 
and how they need to be trusted. Currently, I am trying to figure out how to 
install and application directly from the vendor in order to limit the possible 
number of attackers. Is this above my proficiency level?  Very likely, but the 
alternative is to have a 3rd party decide what/when/where to update a scrip or 
what to copy, delete, and modify my data.  

Let me give you another example: did you know that SIM cloning and credit card 
scams can occur because of insider access?

Will paranoia become the new normal? Or can we make good assumptions or 
decissions based on past experiences? 


Let's keep moving forward, 


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