Jeff Kayser: > Hi, Toptin. > > Glad to put a smile on your face! Humor helps in difficult times, and COVID > has certainly made things difficult. > > Torvalds isn't my God; Jesus is. However, in the area of Linux, few people > are more of an expert than Linus Torvalds. If he prefers Fedora, that’s a > pretty good endorsement. > > There is one other reason: containers are very important, especially for the > cloud. When I started learning about containers, one concern I had was > security. From a security standpoint, docker sucks. To address the > container security issue, one promising direction is podman. It is a docker > replacement, with a *much* better security architecture. The latest podman > is delivered in Fedora. I figured that if I wanted to learn containers, I > should use something secure, so I started with Fedora and podman. My main > Linux VM is Fedora 32. > > I have also used Oracle Linux, Ubuntu, Raspbian, etc, so it's nothing > personal with Fedora. But, the container security issue pushed me over the > edge towards Fedora.
That's a very good rationale, and makes sense. Although, I still have a little problem with distributions like Fedora. Fedora is Redhat and Redhat is IBM. So, in my world they can't be any trust in a company especially such giants like IBM. I got branded with SuSe when they got bought by Novel... I would have thought that the best distribution for a project like Qubes-OS would have been a fully independent community driven one. Like Debian (I'm not a big fan, but if we talk stability and security; Debian is a rock), or maybe something like Arch-Linux. However I got your point. Thanks for clarifying. Regards, toptin. > > ~Jeff Kayser > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf > Of Toptin > Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 9:30 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [qubes-users] Why Fedora? > > This email originated from outside the organization > > Jeff Kayser: >> Here is one reason to use Fedora. >> >> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww. >> fossmint.com%2Fwhich-linux-distribution-does-linus-torvalds-use%2F& >> ;data=02%7C01%7Cjeff.kayser%40thehackettgroup.com%7Cfab8ee9071e24793fa >> ce08d83d4a9056%7C9a21f1283011452ca6829b884467518d%7C0%7C0%7C6373267377 >> 62988903&sdata=dPvgOWqLbgomi%2BMnI1TqGMqdebCxwUBLQQmiFehVNy0%3D&am >> p;reserved=0 > > Ah, see... Mr Torvalds is your God. That isn't a reason at all. But thanks > you put a smile on my face. > >> >> ~Jeff Kayser >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On >> Behalf Of Chris Laprise >> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 9:18 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [qubes-users] Why Fedora? >> >> This email originated from outside the organization >> >> On 8/10/20 12:05 PM, Toptin wrote: >>> Dear Qubes Users, >>> >>> I'm currently digging my way through the exceptional good Qubes >>> documentation. Everything is nicely explained as to why a certain >>> decision / implementation was made, except for the use of Fedora as >>> main distribution. >>> >>> I wonder what's the rationale of that decision; Fedora 25 isn't even >>> supported anymore. No offense or critic intended, just curiosity. >>> >>> Regards, toptin. >>> >> >> IIRC the core Linux developer for Qubes stated that Fedora was simply what >> he was used to when starting the project. >> >> Since then an issue has been open to replace Fedora in dom0 with something >> else. > > Yep, that's more like it. Thought something like that. > > Thanks both of you for your response. > > Regards, toptin. > > >> >> -- >> Chris Laprise, [email protected] >> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith >> ub.com%2Ftasket&data=02%7C01%7Cjeff.kayser%40thehackettgroup.com%7 >> Cfab8ee9071e24793face08d83d4a9056%7C9a21f1283011452ca6829b884467518d%7 >> C0%7C0%7C637326737762988903&sdata=rf5LyRZwJn4dfRrEEFcLntVnlgT2qQxy >> MEBgXjzfmKI%3D&reserved=0 >> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwit >> ter.com%2Fttaskett&data=02%7C01%7Cjeff.kayser%40thehackettgroup.co >> m%7Cfab8ee9071e24793face08d83d4a9056%7C9a21f1283011452ca6829b884467518 >> d%7C0%7C0%7C637326737762988903&sdata=91Nba%2F%2FMjm47xk1d%2BnTb9C3 >> K99uzoIEzj%2B8TAzxIMSU%3D&reserved=0 >> PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB 4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886 >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "qubes-users" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fqubes-users%2Ff27b8bcd-9f82-7aa0-799e-c5887ce4ca79%2540posteo.net&data=02%7C01%7Cjeff.kayser%40thehackettgroup.com%7Cfab8ee9071e24793face08d83d4a9056%7C9a21f1283011452ca6829b884467518d%7C0%7C0%7C637326737762988903&sdata=hJxGmBtxsge7s6vFXKQ3Xt98igaCbAr6O%2BIrzLBTgUI%3D&reserved=0. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "qubes-users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fqubes-users%2Ff2534e20-77c3-976d-100a-3e6f7065f04b%2540riseup.net&data=02%7C01%7Cjeff.kayser%40thehackettgroup.com%7Cfab8ee9071e24793face08d83d4a9056%7C9a21f1283011452ca6829b884467518d%7C0%7C0%7C637326737762988903&sdata=PhM7n3XyB%2F4HzHSYzdb4ehqIfd%2B4LPZDIT6sIK5z%2F6U%3D&reserved=0. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/7bb09daa-1c5c-e826-1aa9-2d535f5efc9a%40riseup.net.
