Frank: >> >> unman: >>>> On Sun, May 03, 2020 at 08:01:59AM +0000, taran1s wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>> What you have built (in packet terms) is: >>>>>> me - Tor - VPN - target. >>>>>> >>>>>> What you seem to want is: >>>>>> me - VPN - Tor - target >>>>>> >>>>>> To do that you need to build the VPN traffic and send it down a Tor >>>>>> circuit. >>>>>> Your Qubes network configuration should be: >>>>>> client - VPN qube - Tor qube - sys-firewall - sys-net >>>>>> >>>>>> I have no idea if Whonix will let you do this. >>>>>> >>>>>> unman >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ah, omg I see. I thought about it in regards of seeing other AppVMs like >>>>> sys-whonix -> sys-firewall -> sys-net. I am not experienced in >>>>> networking and so just followed the logic of whats first gets first. But >>>>> now I see that packet wise, it is vice versa. It is a bit confusing for >>>>> me, but if it is working, I will be more than happy :) >>>>> >>>>> So if I understand it properly, I set the networking of the AppVMs >>>>> following way: >>>>> >>>>> anon-whonix -> VPN-AppVM -> sys-whonix -> clearnet. In this case I use >>>>> tor first, exit from tor-exit-node to the VPN and than exit from VPN to >>>>> clearnet. Am I right? >>>>> >>>> >>>> I tried the setup, but in this case the the VPN proxy doesn't go to Link >>>> UP and TB in anon-whonix isn't connected to the internet. Any ideas? >>>> >>>> BTW I downloaded the default UDP setting package from mullvadVPN as >>>> Chris mentioned. I know that tor is using TCP only. Could this be an >>>> issue with this setup and I should get the TCP package instead of UDP? >>>> >>> Yes. Your UDP traffic wont go through Tor. >>> You need a TCP VPN to route through Tor. >>> >>> unman >>> >> >> I downloaded the TCP port 443 (there is also TCP port 80?) file from >> Mullvad and tried to go through, but the VPN Proxy AppVM cycles with >> 'Ready to start link' only and never goes to the 'Link is UP'. >> >> Maybe there is something in the script from Chris that doesn't cooperate >> with the whonix setup and something needs to be adjusted for this model >> of connecting to VPN after Tor. But no idea what it could be.I am >> unfortunately not able to check the script itself as I am not a programmer.. > > What exactly are you trying to accomplish with this kind of set-up? If you > want to stay anonymous, your connection through the VPN should accomplish > that already (if you make sure your browser doesn’t contain any information > that can be traced back to you) and if not (because you didn’t pay with > Bitcoin or cash and there is a possible paper-trail back to your person from > your mullvad VPN account number) then using it through Tor doesn’t help > either. > > Maybe I am missing something here and I would love to be enlightened if that > is the case... > > Regards, Frank >
As I mentioned, I would like to use Tor before VPN to be able to connect to the tor-unfriendly services like kraken.com. VPN itself is not anonymous and so connect to the VPN from the Tor exit node helps. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/e0d02f08-f3ea-1eea-db71-edf8ff2598dd%40mailbox.org.
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