Chris Laprise:
> On 3/27/20 5:02 AM, scurge1tl wrote:

>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I would like to ask about proper setting of AppVM flow if using
>> Mullvad VPN. I would like to connect to the clearnet following way: Me
>> - -> Tor -> VPN -> clearnet.
>>
>> When setting up mullvad in their web page, I set the parameters for
>> download here https://mullvad.net/en/download/openvpn-config/ in a
>> following way:
>> - - All countries (so that I can change my exit country as needed)
>> - - Port -> TCP 443 (Tor doesn't use UDP, right?)
>> - - tick Use IP addresses
> 
> Using TCP 443 for the connection helps only if you are running the VPN
> on top of Tor. With Tor on top of VPN, you're probably better off with UDP.

Would this mean, if I plan to go with Me -> Tor -> VPN -> clarnet, to go
with UDP mullvad settings? Just to clear the "on top of".

> 
>>
>> To set the Mullvad VPN AppVM, I followed this guide from micahflee
>> https://micahflee.com/2019/11/using-mullvad-in-qubes/ The AppVM with
>> mullvad is vpn-mullvad. All works fine and connects to the network.
>>
>> How should I connect Me -> Tor -> VPN -> clearnet? Am I right with
>> this setup (I didn't launch it yet): anon-whonix -> sys-whonix ->
>> vpn-mullvad -> sys-firewall, or I should use different setup?
> 
> Whonix has a guide that examines the issues of combining Tor and a VPN.
> However, I think its better as a 'what-if/why' guide than a Howto...
> 
> https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Tunnels/Connecting_to_a_VPN_before_Tor

Thank you I will check it.

> 
>>
>> Are there any other steps to follow to prevent leaks?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> The Qubes-vpn-support project is much easier to setup and should work
> more smoothly, in addition to providing better protection against leaks:
> 
> https://github.com/tasket/Qubes-vpn-support
> 
> There is also a VPN setup guide on the Qubes doc page (this is the one
> the Whonix page links to). FWIW, I wrote the scripts for both but the
> idea for Qubes-vpn-support was to automate the setup and improve the
> connection handling of Openvpn so re-connection doesn't take 5 minutes.
> It also checks the firewall to make sure leak prevention is in place
> before initiating connections.

I will try to set the additional AppVM for this and try this guide. What
would be the linking of the AppVMs, if I would like to go Me -> Tor ->
VPN -> clearnet? Is it like anon-whonix -> sys-whonix -> mullvad-AppVM
-> sys-firewall ?

Also I would like to use different exit countries of choice, so I
downloaded all countries from mullvad. Is there any simple way to switch
countries with this VPN settings?
Sorry for noob questions, I am new to the VPN stuff, just used Tor only
till now, but I need to use tor-unfriendly services from time to time
and even if it were tor-friendly, ExitNodes {xx} StrictNodes 1 doesn't
work in qubes-whonix and I therefore can't select exit country easily if
I need to. So I need to have the VPN country as a strict exit.

> 

Thank you and I will let you know if it works!

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