On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 10:35:43PM +0000, River~~ wrote:
> On 17:33, Mon, 20 Jan 2020 unman <[email protected] wrote:
> >
> >
> > So what you mean is that *your* Debian-9 template (updated) does not
> > work as a template for sys-XXX qubes on *your* hardware.
> > That's different.
> 
> I think you are missing my point here. The Fedora templates do work on both
> my laptops, the (older) Debian templates didn't.
> 
> My expectation, which seems reasonable to me, was that the so called "full"
> Debian template would be a drop in replacement for the full Fedora one, and
> in fact that expectation turns out to be false: further work is needed to
> make it work in some cases, including mine.
> 
> The fact that it happens to work on some other hardware does not alter the
> fact that (at the time those Debian templates were issued) they were not
> drop in replacements.
> 
> The fact that other ppl have hardware that fortuitously avoids that
> difference is good luck for you but does not negate my point.
> 

I think your expectation is misplaced - they are different distros, with
different packages, and even where packages *seem* to be the same, their
contents may differ.
Hardware support is difficult. In *many* cases the templates will be
interchangeable. In some, not. You will often see people here being advised to
switch templates to resolve hardware issues for this very reason.

Your original post seemed to suggest that the Debian template didn't come
with packages required to act as sys-XXX - this isn't true. It *may* lack
packages required for some hardware - just install them. (The same is
true for the Fedora templates)

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