Peter Maydell <peter.mayd...@linaro.org> writes:

> On 8 August 2013 17:07, Anthony Liguori <anth...@codemonkey.ws> wrote:
>> It's the same processor.  It still starts executing big endian
>> instructions.  A magic register value is tweaked and loads/stores are
>> swapped.
>
> I dunno about PPC, but for ARM generally the boot-up state is
> controlled by config signals which a SoC or board can hardwire,
> so you can have a SoC which is configured to start in big-endian
> mode.
>
>> CPU data structures are still read as big endian though.
>
> Do you have an example of what you mean by "CPU data structure"?

MMU tlb hash table.  If you grep ldl target-ppc/* you'll see that there
are only a few cases where bswap occurs.

>> The distinction is important in QEMU.  ppc64 is still
>> TARGET_WORDS_BIGENDIAN.
>
> Ideally TARGET_WORDS_BIGENDIAN would go away -- it is forcing
> at compile time a setting which is actually a runtime one,
> and a lot of the weirdness here flows from that.
>
>> We still want most stl_phys to treat integers
>> as big endian.
>
> Any stl_phys() should [in an ideal design] be tied to a
> "bus master" which has its own idea of which endianness
> it is. That is, an stl_phys() for a DMA controller model
> ought to use the endianness programmed for the DMA controller,
> not whatever the CPU happens to be using.

We have the DMA API that attempts to do this but maybe we need to
generalize it a bit more...

I think it's pretty true that we need a context and that the context
for, say instruction fetch, is distinct from the context for load/store
instructions.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>
> -- PMM

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