On Wed, Mar 18, 2026 at 2:20 PM Markus Armbruster <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Zhang Chen <[email protected]> writes:
>
> > On Thu, Mar 12, 2026 at 5:16 PM Markus Armbruster <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Context...  we're talking about this command:
> >>
> >>     ##
> >>     # @x-blockdev-set-iothread:
> >>     #
> >>     # Move @node and its children into the @iothread.  If @iothread is
> >>     # null then move @node and its children into the main loop.
> >>     #
> >>     # The node must not be attached to a BlockBackend.
> >>     #
> >>     # @node-name: the name of the block driver node
> >>     #
> >>     # @iothread: the name of the IOThread object or null for the main loop
> >>     #
> >>     # @force: true if the node and its children should be moved when a
> >>     #     BlockBackend is already attached
> >>     #
> >>     # Features:
> >>     #
> >>     # @unstable: This command is experimental and intended for test cases
> >>     #     that need control over IOThreads only.
> >>     #
> >>     # Since: 2.12
> >>     #
> >>     # .. qmp-example::
> >>     #    :title: Move a node into an IOThread
> >>     #
> >>     #     -> { "execute": "x-blockdev-set-iothread",
> >>     #          "arguments": { "node-name": "disk1",
> >>     #                         "iothread": "iothread0" } }
> >>     #     <- { "return": {} }
> >>     #
> >>     # .. qmp-example::
> >>     #    :title: Move a node into the main loop
> >>     #
> >>     #     -> { "execute": "x-blockdev-set-iothread",
> >>     #          "arguments": { "node-name": "disk1",
> >>     #                         "iothread": null } }
> >>     #     <- { "return": {} }
> >>     ##
> >>     { 'command': 'x-blockdev-set-iothread',
> >>       'data' : { 'node-name': 'str',
> >>                  'iothread': 'StrOrNull',
> >>                  '*force': 'bool' },
> >>       'features': [ 'unstable' ],
> >>       'allow-preconfig': true }
> >>
> >>
> >> Stefan Hajnoczi <[email protected]> writes:
> >>
> >> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2026 at 06:02:54PM +0800, Zhang Chen wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, Mar 9, 2026 at 4:15 PM Stefan Hajnoczi <[email protected]> 
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Thu, Mar 05, 2026 at 10:24:50PM +0800, Zhang Chen wrote:
> >> >> > > Update the usage of "iothread_get_aio_context()".
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Signed-off-by: Zhang Chen <[email protected]>
> >> >> > > ---
> >> >> > >  blockdev.c | 9 ++++++++-
> >> >> > >  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > diff --git a/blockdev.c b/blockdev.c
> >> >> > > index 6e86c6262f..01ccf64b3f 100644
> >> >> > > --- a/blockdev.c
> >> >> > > +++ b/blockdev.c
> >> >> > > @@ -3683,7 +3683,14 @@ void qmp_x_blockdev_set_iothread(const char 
> >> >> > > *node_name, StrOrNull *iothread,
> >> >> > >              goto out;
> >> >> > >          }
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > -        new_context = iothread_get_aio_context(obj);
> >> >> > > +        char *path = object_get_canonical_path(OBJECT(bs));
> >> >> >
> >> >> > CCing Kevin and Markus in case they have an opinion on this.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > BlockDriverState is not a QOM Object so using OBJECT(bs) is undefined
> >> >> > behavior and may crash.
> >>
> >> Yes.
> >>
> >> >> > node_name is unique across block driver graph nodes and could be used.
> >> >> > Unfortunately it's not connected to the QOM Object hierarchy.
> >>
> >> Correct.
> >>
> >> >> >                                                               Maybe 
> >> >> > it's
> >> >> > best to build a holder name that is an invalid QOM path so there can 
> >> >> > be
> >> >> > no collisions between QOM paths and block driver graph nodes.
> >>
> >> I guess you're talking about the values that go into IOThreadInfo member
> >> holders.  From PATCH 13:
> >>
> >>     # @holders: The parameter is an array of QOM paths indicating how many
> >>     #     active devices are currently associated with this iothread
> >>     #     (e.g. virtio-blk).  In hotplug scenarios, users can
> >>     #     pre-allocate multiple iothread objects to serve as a persistent
> >>     #     thread pool.  When a device is hot-unplugged, the corresponding
> >>     #     IOThread is released but remains available, allowing subsequent
> >>     #     hot-plugged devices to attach to and reuse the existing thread.
> >>     #     Returns empty if no devices are attached.  (since 11.0)
> >>     #
> >>
> >> I further guess you need it to refer to both QOM objects and block
> >> nodes, and you worry about ambiguity.
> >>
> >> Ambiguity indeed exists: a block node name can be a valid QOM path.
> >>
> >> We could restrict QOM paths to absolute paths.  These start with '/'.
> >> If I remember correctly, node names cannot contain '/'.
> >>
> >> Note that canonical paths (returned object_get_canonical_path()) are
> >> absolute.
> >>
> >> We ran into a similar design issue in review of Vladimir's "[PATCH v10
> >> 4/8] qapi: add blockdev-replace command" not too long ago:
> >>
> >>     Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 4/8] qapi: add blockdev-replace command
> >>     Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2026 13:26:35 +0100
> >>     Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> >>
> >> There, the new command needs to refer to QOM object, block node, or
> >> block export.
> >>
> >> >> >   g_autofree char *holder = g_strdup_printf("BlockDriverState %s", 
> >> >> > node_name);
> >> >> >
> >> >> > (A cleaner long-term solution would be making BlockDriverStates QOM
> >> >> > Objects so they have a proper path.)
> >>
> >> Yes, but that's a beefy project, isn't it?
> >>
> >> >> If no other comments, it's OK for me. This issue like I mentioned in
> >> >> patch 7 and 9.
> >> >
> >> > A thought about the QAPI interface:
> >> >
> >> > QAPI expresses as much information in the schema as possible, so I think
> >> > the right approach would be a {'union': 'IOThreadHolder',
> >> > 'discriminator': 'type', ...} that supports at least "qom" and
> >> > "block-node". That way there are proper types to encode QOM Object paths
> >> > vs block node-names. Let's avoid having a single string value that takes
> >> > on different meaning depending on the type of holder.
> >>
> >> This shifts the complexity from semantics to syntax.
> >>
> >> Semantics: the member can have multiple meanings, and you have to
> >> examine its value to decide which one applies.  The member's
> >> documentation should specify how to decide.  Say something like "if the
> >> value starts with '/', it's an absolute QOM path, else it's a block node
> >> name".
> >>
> >> Syntax: meaning is syntactically obvious.  For instance, union of QOM
> >> path and block node name.
> >>
> >> Complex semantics tend to require more complex documentation.
> >>
> >> Which choice is better depends on the specific case.  I generally lean
> >> towards syntax.
> >>
> >
> > I agree Markus's suggestion.
> > Compare with standard QOM path:
> > /machine/peripheral/blk0/virtio-backend
> >
> > I will try to implement block nodes path like this:
> > /machine/blockdriverstate/node-name
>
> I gather you'd like to try creating QOM objects for block nodes.
>
> First, this should not go into /machine.  We already have /chardevs and
> /audiodevs, which suggests something like /blockdevs or /block-nodes.

It may be a lot of work. An alternative I suggested was a holder enum
instead of a string so that QOM paths and block node names can be
separated with no chance of collisions. That approach is more
straightforward to implement and the main drawback I see is that the
enum would become superfluous if block nodes become QOM objects in the
future. That's not terrible.

Stefan

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