Hi Philip, > [...] In any case, it definitely wasn't the case that eggs or setuptools were > rejected for 2.5; they were withdrawn for reasons that didn't have anything > to do with the format itself. Thanks for clarifying. I nonetheless remember strong opposition to pulling the code unmodified, from MvL IIRC.
> (And, ironically enough, AFAIK the new packaging module uses code that's > actually based on the bits of setuptools Fredrik was worried about > supporting... setuptools presence in packaging is - packaging.database can read egg/PKG-INFO (zipped and unzipped) and egg-info files - packaging.install can detect that a project uses a setup.py with setuptools, run that setup.py, and convert egg-info to dist-info > but at least there now are more people providing that support.) Truth be told, I’m not sure it is so. The student who worked on packaging.database has not remained a member of our group; his mentor is also less active. But that’s not the hardest code in packaging. Regarding installation, we do have people with distribute knowledge and experience, so that’s good. >> What we can do however is to see what bdist_egg does and define a new bdist >> command inspired by it, but without zipping, pkg_resource calls, etc. > Why? If you just want a dumb bdist format, there's already bdist_dumb. We’re not sure bdist_dumb is what we’re after—see my other messages. > Conversely, if you want a smarter format, why reinvent wheels? Recent packaging PEPs and distutils2 are all about reinventing wheels! Or rather standardizing best practices for wheels. Some ideas are taken near-identical from setuptools, other see great changes. In this case, we have to define our requirements, and if bdist_egg can work (as a distribution format, not an installation format!), then we may just take it. If it does not, we’ll have to make a new wheel. Regards _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
