On Apr 28, 2011, at 3:07 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Raymond Hettinger > <raymond.hettin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Apr 28, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Holger Krekel wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Guido van Rossum <gu...@python.org> wrote: >>>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Tarek Ziadé <ziade.ta...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> In my opinion assert should be avoided completely anywhere else than >>>>> in the tests. If this is a wrong statement, please let me know why :) >>>> >>>> I would turn that around. The assert statement should not be used in >>>> unit tests; unit tests should use self.assertXyzzy() always. >>> >>> FWIW this is only true for the unittest module/pkg policy for writing and >>> organising tests. There are other popular test frameworks like nose and >>> pytest >>> which promote using plain asserts within writing unit tests and also allow >>> to >>> write tests in functions. And judging from my tutorials and others places >>> many >>> people appreciate the ease of using asserts as compared to learning tons >>> of new methods. YMMV. >> >> I've also observed that people appreciate using asserts with nose.py and >> py.test. > > They must not appreciate -O. :-)
It might be nice if there were a pragma or module variable to selectively enable asserts for a given test module so that -O would turn-off asserts in the production code but leave them on in a test_suite. Raymond _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com