The positional parameter would also mean dicttemplate, and
would be deprecated (eventually requiring a keyword-only
parameter).

Although I hate the name 'dicttemplate', this seems like the best solution
to me. Maybe it's good that 'dicttemplate' is so ugly though so that people
will naturally prefer 'format' :). But I like this because there's not
really any magic, it's explicit, and the decision is made by the coder at
the call site. The implementation does not need to guess at all.

Could you comment on what you think we should do when the parameter is
not positional? As I mentioned upthread, in the case of
logging.Formatter, it's already documented as taking the keyword
parameter "fmt", so we'd have to use the name "fmt" for % formatting.

Unless there is a firm decision to switch to kill %-formatting across the board,
I don't think anything should be done at all. Creating Py3.x was all about removing cruft and clutter. I don't think it would be improved by adding two ways to do it for everything in the standard library. That is a lot of additional code, API expansion, and new testing, fatter docs, and extra maintenance, but giving us no new functionality.

Anytime we start hearing about newstyle/oldstyle combinations, I think
a flag should go up.  Anytime there is a proposal to make sweeping
additions that do not  add new capabilities, a flag should go up.

I understand the desire to have all formatting support both ways,
but I don't think it is worth the costs.  People *never* need both ways
though they may have differing preferences about which *one* to use.

my-two-cents,


Raymond



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