Did the original PEP discussion cover debates about the shortcut working for all assignment operators (like += and x[i] =) and the difference between it being one-shot (doesnt affect x for the rest of the function) or simply the unrolling into nonlocal x; x= y as it is?
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Amaury Forgeot d'Arc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Fabio Zadrozny wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm currently implementing a parser to handle Python 3.0, and one of >>> the points I found conflicting with the grammar specification is the >>> PEP 3104. >>> >>> It says that a shortcut would be added to Python 3.0 so that "nonlocal >>> x = 0" can be written. However, the latest grammar specification >>> (http://docs.python.org/dev/3.0/reference/grammar.html?highlight=full%20grammar) >>> doesn't seem to take that into account... So, can someone enlighten me >>> on what should be the correct treatment for that on a grammar that >>> wants to support Python 3.0? >> >> An issue was already filed about this: >> http://bugs.python.org/issue4199 >> It should be ready for inclusion in 3.0.1. > > No it should not. It should be put in 3.1. > > I strongly object against the addition of features of *any* kind to > 3.0.1, no matter whether they were promised or announced in a PEP or > in the docs or on the 8 o'clock news. This would make 3.0.0 forever a > "loser" release. > > (I find the removal of 'cmp' hard to swallow too, but in a sense the > addition of features is worse, as it makes downgrading a risk. > Upgrades, no matter how minimal, always represent risks -- however > downgrading shouldn't represent risks, unless you happen to depend on > a bugfix that wasn't present in the downgrade -- but we're not talking > about a bugfix here no matter how you bend the English language.) > > -- > --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/) > _______________________________________________ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/ironfroggy%40gmail.com > -- Read my blog! I depend on your acceptance of my opinion! I am interesting! http://techblog.ironfroggy.com/ Follow me if you're into that sort of thing: http://www.twitter.com/ironfroggy _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
