Fredrik Lundh wrote:

> no need to wait for any raymond-cycles here; just point me to the latest 
> version of the proposal, and it'll be in the trunk within 30 minutes.

are these still valid?

     http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2005-August/055764.html
     http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2005-August/055770.html

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