Even if Python itself is the standard distribution, you should be able to
debug your outside DLL module in VS just by putting a breakpoint on your
favorite line and setting "/path/to/python.exe -m yourmodule" as the
command path under debugging in your project properties, or whatever
commandline accomplishes whatever initialization you need to test.
Multiprocessing might be something else entirely, I don't know, I've only
debugged DLLs in-process. As soon as your breakpoint is hit, it'll stop as
you'd expect, even though you started something else entirely.

-Em

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 4:56 PM <pjfarl...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Yes, that is my specific issue.  I have a C DLL invoked by a python
> wrapper module using ctypes that has at least one issue (and likely more
> than one) so I need to be able to start a python test script and debug the
> lower-level DLL code.  The C test programs for the lower-level C DLL all
> seen to succeed, so I am suspecting something is wrong in the wrapper code.
>
> If anyone has or knows of step-by-step instructions on how to set that
> debug environment up and start the outer-level script with debug
> breakpoints in the DLL I would greatly appreciate it.  I'm also doing my
> own searches for tutorials on debugging python with VS20xx, but have not
> read/viewed one of those yet.
>
> I have in fact been able to re-compile cpython and the lower-level DLL
> using the VS2019 command line tools, but so far my only debugging
> capability has been to insert fprintf's to a trace file in the lower-level
> DLL code (or macros that result in such output) into the C code where I
> *think* the problem is happening, but I have not been able to nail it down
> yet.  Being able to start the process from the IDE and catch any C errors
> when they happen would be ideal.
>
> My environment is Win10-64 and python 3.8.5.
>
> Peter
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Moore <p.f.mo...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 2:20 PM
> > To: pjfarl...@earthlink.net
> > Cc: Python Dev <python-dev@python.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] Advice / RTFM needed for tool setup to
> participate in
> > python development from a Windows host
> >
> > Personally, I just have Visual Studio and VS Code as my text editor. I
> > rarely use Visual Studio directly, though, I mostly use the
> > `build.bat` and similar scripts in the `PCBuild` directory.
> >
> > Having said that, I'm not doing anything like debugging problems with
> > DLLs, for which I imagine a decent C development environment is
> > needed. You don't have much choice other than Visual Studio there (no
> > other compiler is supported on Windows), though, so you'll probably
> > need to learn that.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 18:28, <pjfarl...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I hope this is the correct place to ask this question.  I have a
> desire to
> > > participate in python development in a particular area from my Windows
> host
> > > machine, but I am not finding any concise listing of the tool setup
> needed
> > > to fully participate, nor any detailed guidance on how to proceed when
> > > underlying code debugging is necessary.
> > >
> > > I do know that some version of the MS VS20xx suite is necessary to
> begin.
> > > My initial attempts using the VS2019 Community Edition have been less
> than
> > > successful when it comes to debugging an underlying C library component
> > when
> > > the starting program is python because I have not figured out how to
> use the
> > > VS2019 environment to do that.
> > >
> > > So I would appreciate any RTFM / URL that can guide me in starting to
> > > participate, especially for guidance on debugging procedures for
> underlying
> > > C components when the initial program is a python script.
> > >
> > > I have read most of the "Python Developers Guide" material, but there
> is not
> > > any Window-specific tooling information that I have seen there yet.
> What
> > > other tooling do I need besides a VS20xx environment?
> > >
> > > I do have good experience in C programming, but not much in using
> VS20xx
> > > IDE's.
> > >
> > > TIA for your gentle guidance in curing my ignorance.
> > >
> > > Peter
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