Guido van Rossum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 1/10/06, Delaney, Timothy (Tim) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Guido van Rossum wrote:
>>
>> > On 1/10/06, Thomas Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> I would like to suggest to include ctypes into core Python, starting
>> >> with the 2.5 release.
>> >
>> > On the one hand I agree that this is a useful module, popular, mature
>> > etc.
>> >
>> > On the other hand it breaks one of the most fundamental Python
>> > guidelines: if you get a core dump (segfault etc.) it's a bug in
>> > Python or in a 3rd party extension, not in *your* Python code. An
>> > exception would have to be made for any code that uses ctypes, as it
>> > is usually trivial to cause core dumps with ctypes (I'd venture it's
>> > hard to avoid them ;-).
>> >
>> > I don't expect this to count against including ctypes; but I do want
>> > it to be dealt with somehow!
>>
>> As was pointed out on c.l.py, the `dl` module suffers the exact same
>> problem (I don't know myself, as I've never used it). There are no
>> warnings about this in the `dl` module documentation.
>
> Good point. I think there should be such warnings though.
>
>> I can't see how it would be possible to guarantee that such a module
>> could not cause crashes.
>
> And I'm not asking for that.
>
>> I'm of the opinion that having a big red
>> warning at the top of the module documentation that this is a
>> contributed module, and incorrect use could cause segmentation
>> faults/crashes, etc would be sufficient.
>
> Works for me.

Another possibility would be to emit a warning when the module (dl or
ctypes, if included) is imported.

warnings.warn("Incorrect usage of this module may crash Python",
              RuntimeWarning, stacklevel=2)

Thomas

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